Why can't you keep the "Test out" quizzes after passing?
I think the "test out" quizzes are really useful practice of the previous sections. They are more of a challenge than the "Strengthen skills" quizzes and they really help me to understand where I need to improve. It would be good if these quizzes were still available for practice after passing a checkpoint. I find myself taking these quizzes a lot just before completing the last exercise before the checkpoint, so as to get as much practice in before it's lost. What's the harm in keeping the quiz available after reaching a checkpoint, for revision?
The reason Duolingo doesn't keep the "Test out" quizzes after you pass the section is because the reason they are there is to just test out of the section that you're on. I agree with you, that they should keep it, as it would be useful for improving your skills. :-)
I completely agree! You deserve 4 lingots! Sorry I can't give you more, I have a contest.
There is another reason it would be good to allow the test out quizzes again after passing them, particularly the shortcut ones.
Not everyone is learning the language, some of us are revising. For example, I only work on Spanish ahead of a trip to Spain - so I did none last year and I have picked it up again this year.
Of course the purpose of revising is to strengthen what has gone a bit rusty, but I don't think it's fair to assume I'm down to 1 bar of strength in Basics 1 for example. So, if the shortcuts were re-enabled or the test-outs, I'd have been able to check exactly what needed revising. However, my only course of action was to delete the tree and start again, using the shortcuts then testing out. It took me a couple of weeks of working over (often things I was confident in) to re-complete the tree and see which skills were genuinely not golden. In brief, it would be handy to have a shortcut to skip those two weeks so I could just go straight to working on what needs working on.
In another thread Matt posted his experienced about the total DL words and all possible (rotating) total sentences on DL.
Will try to find it later and link here...
IMHO you can not really use DuoLingo for pre-intermediate/intermediate (e.g English) knowledge for a refresher and ONLY to learn the things which you don't know, as you will miss many words (e.g the words you do not know) on DuoLingo.
Matt pointed out that it makes no sense to use the checkpoints / skill test-out buttons, as so many "learned words" are skipped if you do.
That is true, and I can clearly see it for DE-EN / EN-DE (both level 10, less words, comprehension + tree checkpoints + skill test-outs)
EN-PT courses (level 10, not so far down in the tree, already MORE learned words as the others).
Well, who is interested to take a course from scratch / re-learn the language from zero (or refresh a course after a break) just to do each lesson by lesson and probably be bored with all the basic questions / words you already know translation for?? Not me, speaking for the DuoLingo English courses.
Found the "do not test-out" and "Testing out reverse tree" threads:
- "of the previous sections"
- "Before completing last excercise"
- "before checkpoint"
- "so as to get as much practice in before it's lost".
Yes, the quiz is a bit more challenging.
I wonder what benefit you will get from it, over-doing (too often) the quiz?
As far as I understand the quiz meassures your learning progress over the full tree / the complete available words of the language on DuoLingo, testing not only what you have learned so far, but tests the overall picture in your language (across all skills, all grammar), hence total points 5.0.
I am a little bit more through (down) my tree as you (whereas tree skill order of Portuguese vs French courses is quite different!!!) and the quiz I did today (scored 1.65/5.0), throw vocabulary / grammar tenses into exercises that was not really known to me up to my current skill checkpoints (as expected).
As I answered these more difficult questions wrong / skipped them, the questions and complexity changed noticeable (they got easier). See the many other threads how the quiz works from more experienced learners...
And once the questions got easier in the quiz I felt again trapped into the "the boy/girl/man/woman eats/drinks bred/cafe" boring stuff.
There were some threads about real language online A1/A2 tests (can't find them right now), which I did for English (including interpreting texts and answering questions to it, filling in the blanks), and those made IMHO much more sense...
As you can not review your answers, IMHO you might not practically learn too much from it, like where your weak section/skill points might be (for strengthening) besides where you are standing altogether??
As you are early in your tree and lower level, of course it is harder to rebuy the quiz each time for 25 lingots. Therefore there are so many lingot begging threads ;)
Honestly, I do not have plans to repeat the DuoLingo quiz too often considering how little I still know about the language grammar (all future tenses skills) after 97 days and upcoming more advanced vocabulary (Memrise courses).
I will pass hopefully soon my last checkpoint, and then there are 41!!! skills to be completed after it to reach the final end.
Of course, you are free to take the quiz as often as you want each ~3-5/10 skills.
Each 3 (1-2) months may be more useful to take the quiz??!
Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong on any point.