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Make Duolingo Great Again

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Please, give immersion back to us and make duolingo great again. Total disappointment to come here after a break and find out that it's over, sad very sad.

1 year ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/MissThorson

As rspreng said, almost no Dulingo users actually used Immersion. I'm guessing because many people use the app. Although I also am very disappointed that Immersion is gone, I really enjoyed translating, I'm sure Luis has a greater purpose. He IS the one who created and is still trying his best to improve Duolingo. :)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Osnakezz
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Lang-8 is a great replacer, if you'd like to know. Many people from Immersion moved to there after it was removed.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MissThorson

I've heard about it, but haven't actually tried it yet. :)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SeptimusBones
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People are increasingly using the apps, sure, but I think the bigger reasons for lack of users in Immersion where

1) it was only available for very few languages

2) you had to finish a tree to get use out of it

Those are two things that considerably limit the amount of people who were capable of using immersion. And when you add that not everyone, who could use immersion, actually used it, it's no wonder it wasn't worth the resources.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MissThorson

Well, I did know it was available for very few languages, but I did not know you had to finish a tree to use it. I know I did not. Maybe that was later added, but when I first joined I only had to reach level 2 in order to use Immersion.

But yes, those probably are the biggest reasons why people didn't use Immersion. I'm sure there's others.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SeptimusBones
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I said "get use out of it" not "use it". I'm not certain if there was a level or tree requirement (though I wouldn't be surprised if there was). My point was that immersion was never a compelling side activity to do on the side. It was the answer to "well what do I do now that I've finished the tree?". Furthermore, immersion would've been little use anyway, if you were still trying to grasp concepts in the tree. It was, by design (subjective, maybe), more for those who had finished the tree (or were high on it).

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/SGuthrie0

Actually, you did not have to complete a tree before using it. I started using it early on. After one year, I have yet to complete a tree, but I did learn a lot from Immersion. -- and they complemented each other very well.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Deyan161
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3) Some of us never used it though we wanted to because we never had it. This must have affected the statistics.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MasterZsword

I got plenty of use out of Immersion, even though I didn't finish the French tree. Though, it may be because I was taking a French class outside of Duolingo, which kind of got me ahead in most areas of the lessons.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/alienation2048

Sign this petition to help bring Immersion back: https://www.change.org/p/duolingo-bring-back-duolingo-immersion-program

10 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/estudianteMTI3

I have a question. Did you ever use immersion, and if so how often did you use it?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RobinDeWitte
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I used immersion last year when studying Spanish. I enjoyed it a lot. Especially the immense variation of topics made it fun. Now, I am learning Italian. So disappointed that Immersion has dissapeared in the mean time. Please put it back. I promise to use it even more frequently.;-)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MEHuston

I used it sporadically. (usually when I was feeling fairly confident with my skill).

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/roberto727

Mar_ty, I was also disappointed to return to the site and find it gone. I would surmise the reason for the low percentage of "Immersion" users is that most DL users are relatively "new" to the languages they are learning, so immersion was not comfortable or productive for them. However,out of the millions of DL users, my guess is there were thousands of those who happily and gratefully used Immersion, especially those who might have completed the 25th level and not been inclined to attack new languages. I followed and worked with nearly 100 who were active in Spanish immersion, and there were countless others using it that I didn't follow. I just did a count, and 49 of those had absolutely no points earned for the entire month of June, which leads me to believe they have abandoned the site altogether ( as I have for the most part, until Korean comes on line in August) Extrapolating, though without any other hard data, I would say thousands have left DL and thousands of others have greatly decreased their usage. One of the reasons it was hard to maintain was because of the complaints of misuse, especially by juveniles scamming the system to earn points simply by changing spelling or punctuation. This could be easily solved by charging for access. If DL would offer a year's pass to immersion for $25, my guess is half a million dollars would show up as income within a couple months time. It would be interesting to see how many of our fellow users would pay that pittance for the privilege.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/roberto727

Perhaps I should have read all the other comments before posting. I know Immersion was available in several languages--Spanish, French, Italian, German, and probably others. I also know there were no level restriction to keep beginners from participating in the Spanish immersion, though in retrospect that might have been a good idea. If by "subjective" you mean there are often various ways to translate a sentence or paragraph, that is so, but if those suggestions were made in good faith as an honest attempt to improve or offer an alternate translation, it was a learning experience for all. In addition to improving my ability to understand and write in Spanish, Immersion was a window on the world. We translated literature from great authors (Cervantes, Jack London, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle), children's stories, sports articles, pop culture, political happenings, at least one article to do with outer space, and any of a number of other topics. Many of the group members were native speakers from Spain or South America, who were all to willing to help those less adept at Spanish, and we were sometimes able to return the favor with English. In fact, immersion gave me a better idea of the obstacles foreign speakers meet in learning my native English. Luis has done wonders with this site--a gift to us all, but I hope he will keep open the possibility of reviving Immersion.

1 year ago