I used to be excited about duolingo..
anyone else get like half way through all the lessons and its just become so repetitive that you lose interest in it all together? EDIT: thanks for the comments guys!! i thought i would get met with a lot of dislikes but you guys were pretty supportive thanks a bunch.
That's why Duolingo should have kept immersion and continued to introduce it to all new users and courses instead of slowly strangling it over the last three years, then killing it off last month. You could always find interesting subjects in immersion with new words and phrases to introduce into your vocabulary. The different topics kept the language fresh and interesting and collaborating with and helping and learning from other users was a supportive and fun way to learn.
Except that there were some unsolvable issues with the immersion feature--like the fact that users in the EU were not able to participate. Perhaps they will develop something different for more advanced learners at some point in time, but immersion as it existed wasn't going to work.
(Personally, I also really loathed the immersion feature and quit using it early on.)
As a EU citizen, I can tell you that I have participated in everything since the beginning. Immersion was discontinued because the business model was not viable (or not made viable).
I finished the French-English and English-French trees and yes, it's very boring! It's not the lessons themselves, which are actually very well done, but the way they are presented. I think the entire Duolingo learning system sucks and needs a better "gamification", but there's not much we can do about it.
Duolingo is like an arrow that hit the target, but missed the bullseye, sort of speaking. It's useful, but truly boring.
I suggest adding other study sources and methods. I find that I can't sustain my interest in Duolingo if it is the only method that I use. Check out flashcards, like anki or memrise. Or listening comprehension through fluentU of yabla (neither are free, but in my opinion worth it for improving comprehension of native speakers if you can afford it). Local libraries often have good resources. Or read some language study oriented blogs. There is an abundance of resources out there, and I find that when I feel like I'm making progress with other methods, I'm more motivated to work through the repetitive nature of Duo.
Isn't repetition exactly what's required to learn a language? Practise, practise, practise. Repeat, repeat, repeat until it's all stuck in your brain.
True - I think it's just that the algorithms require some tweaking ... like, there should be zero doubt that I know pomme = apple !!!, but Duolingo keeps using apples and ignores the other array of nouns that I'm (supposed to be) learning.
Well, it depends on how fast you learn. In French, I only need to see a word once or twice to learn it, but in Hungarian, I really need the repetition before I know that apple = alma and not ablak :)
I agree with El Gusano but there is an important question to ask. Do you feel that you already know all the material (including pronunciation)? if the answer is yes, then you do not need the repetition, if the answer is no you need it.
However we all learn in different ways and maybe you need a break from duo and do other activities such as reading, watching movies, trying to talk in French or other language courses. It is like working out you have to do it many times constantly to see results.
Oui! I'm so tired of being asked words I obviously know - like "fille" and "garcon" (sorry, can't do the accent mark on this keyboard; ironic, I know). There needs to be a more adaptive AI component - stop asking me about eating apples and being a boy, and test some of the (many, many!) other words that I've been shown.
I think this is a valid point. Ideally it should learn what your shortcomings are and focus on these areas. Particularly after you've finished the tree.
Well, it depends. If you finished your tree and you are just revising, well... you are "revising" so yes, it's repetitive. Otherwise, I didn't have this feeling.
I'm sorry. A few years ago with Italian, I began to lose interest as well. I suggest taking a small break, until you feel excited to do duolingo again. Now I am always excited for duolingo!!
Have you ever noticed how many people say they would like to learn another language and how few ever actually do?
I think you may have hit upon one thing that prevents people from ever finishing learning a language... no matter what method you use, it requires powering through the feelings of it being boring and repetitive.
Then once you power through that and start speaking another language, you have to power through getting corrected all the time - something adults really hate.
It takes thousands of hours away from things we'd often rather be doing instead of going through all that repetition. All this just to communicate what you could effortlessly communicate in your mother tongue. Not everyone is cut out for the whole language learning experience!
I hate getting told I'm wrong :) So when I get that red screen and "wah-wah" that I've made a mistake, I try to remind myself that it's a learning opportunity.
That said, I think it'd be helpful if Duolingo could have different levels of "wah-wah" ... if I've dropped a letter but clearly understood the concept, that seems like a level of magnitude different type of error than if I had no effing clue... i.e., it's kind of harsh to get the same red screen of failure whether you've made a little mistake, or an egregiously ignorant one.
Have you noticed how children pick up their mother tongue? Specifically how they react to making mistakes and being corrected? Contrast that to how adults react for the same offense. It barely registers for the children as an annoyance but the adults get butthurt (haha that word...) over it. This does not help learning. When I became fluent in Spanish it was because I made an effort to change how I reacted to being corrected, as well as being willing to ask for help. It serves me well learning Italian as I am not bothered by correction but brazenly continue... like a child. So for duo and when you continue on to speaking in person, learn to take this more like children do. You will actually learn much better.
I finished my French tree a week ago. Now I am able to read Le Figaro with the occasional help of a dictionary. I can watch France 24 and understand perhaps half of what is being said, an amount that seems to be increasing daily. The only deficit in my studies is conversation, for which I may hire a tutor from the local university.
In my opinion Duolingo is fabulous and worth the time and effort. It is only the first part of a long journey.
Did you take the help of anything else for hearing comprehension? Because I don't think Duolingo alone is enough to make one understand what's being said at native speed of a speaker (something you'd find on France 24).
I had never heard of clozemaster but I just went and looked it up. The gamification is not much different from Duolingo. It's still just translating sentences, but in the case of clozemaster it's just one word and only ever one way.
They make it LOOK like a game but it doesn't actually play like one.
Well, after a while it started to feel like a game to me. And you get points and leaderboards and stuff, so it is gamified. I think it's a nice alternative for people who want something after Duolingo.
It is supposed to be repetitive, that's how you learn a language. With learning your native language, your mother probably told you stuff like "say mama" or "say ball" while pointing to that object. That was that repetition with some changes. Duolingo is the same.
I guess it depends on your learning style. Maybe you just don't like this learning style that much and that's why it got so repetitive that you're bored?
Be patient and you'll be able to speak the language you're learning. Patience is a virtue, after all, and extremely helpful in language learning. Best of luck to you!
Kids mostly learn language not by having it explicitly taught to them, but by being immersed in an environment where the language is used. This works well for adult learners too, to the extent that it is feasible. For example trying to read or listen to things, and looking up some words in a dictionary. This automatically provides a lot of repetition of the most common words.
this is totally true i used to be exited but now im totally bored of it
Your welcome! I know how you feel about getting stuck in the middle of a lesson!!!
I wish Duolingo would restore their mobile friendly version so I could see the box where I type the answers on my screen !
I find it slightly irritating that when I practice the skills I've completed (now doing Russian, which I've also studied earlier), it seems I get a very limited pool of sentences which I keep doing from different angles (hearing, checking the correct translations, translation from Russian to English and from English to Russian). It gets quite tedious.
I understand the need for repetition, but for me it would be most motivating if the Duolingo algorithms could be changed so that if I get the sentence correct once or twice (especially from the foreign to the known language, which I find most difficult), I wouldn't have to do it again in the same lesson.
I do still like it as I need the repetition in certain areas. I also have added other online word game sites and videos to expand what I do & added languages. Using the review I was able to travel through Quebec and read the signs and confident I knew what was going on.
It used to be good in 2014 when there were good ass discussions going on, lots of smart adults interested in language, good contributions, great motivation... Now it's a bunch of pissy ❤❤❤❤❤ teens bitching about their Spanish class like, it SUCKS using this site not being able to look at discussions and ask questions
Hi Ahmed, that would be great. I just started learning Arab on my own. Recently, I bought a 3-part Rosetta Stone course to learn Arab. There are also some youtube courses that seem really good. But, I would love to have a friend to work with. Do you speak English fluently or are you just learning it?
See my previous post on trying to find someone to help me learn Arab. I'm really intrigued by the language and music of that region of the world.