"No, I have never been there."

Translation:Nac ydw, dw i erioed wedi bod yno.

February 16, 2017

17 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/cwtch_y_ddraig

I am pretty sure you can say 'dw i byth wedi bod yno' for 'i have never been there'

February 16, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/shwmae

That's a non-standard version found in some parts of south Wales. In the standard language, the present perfect "I have never..." always takes erioed.

February 17, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/cwtch_y_ddraig

Ooo, good to know :-) thanks!

February 17, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/shwmae

Croeso!

February 17, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/RowenaJane

Why does the 'erioed' go before the 'wedi'?

August 16, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/shwmae

Erioed takes the place of ddim:

Nac ydw, dw i ddim wedi bod yno "No, I haven't been there"

Nac ydw, dw i erioed wedi bod yno "No, I've never been there"

August 16, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/SebastianE342675

I have only used Duolingo so far as a complete beginner. I have found it to be quite good as I dont aim to understand the ins and outs of grammer as long as i develop a feel for the correct way of saying things. Thats how I learned Dutch. I have never heard of SSiW so I am eager to check it out. Diolch yn fawr!

February 28, 2018

https://www.duolingo.com/JSD83

The "byth" version is the one I am familiar with as well.

March 6, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/shwmae

Southerner?

March 6, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/JSD83

Southern Welsh learner, yes. Started learning via SSiW, as did most of my class. Our athro is from Aberystwyth, I'll have to ask h8m which he uses as I don't recall it coming up in lessons yet.

March 6, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/shwmae

I see. It's considered "non-standard" but is common in south Wales and perfectly fine in colloquial speech. SSiW aims to teach colloquial patterns, which is great. SSiW learners tend to sound a lot more natural and normal - basically a lot more Welsh - than learners on any other kind of course I know.

March 6, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Bronwyn528860

I am a huge fan of SSiW! Just in case anyone is seeing this who doesn't know what that is, it is Say Something in Welsh. Check it out! saysomethingin.com

May 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/shwmae

@Bronwyn528860 @JSD83 Both excellent recommendations! SSiW and Gareth King's stuff are some of the best resources around for Welsh leaners. They're better than Duolingo, in my opinion.

May 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/shwmae

Yep, I agree Duolingo has it's uses. It's not really a good place to start - for that I'd recommend SSiW or a class. I think it has its place as a supplement to something more substantial and comprehensive.

May 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/JSD83

A timely item, as our intermediate class just ran through unit 4 of Gareth King's intermediate workbook last evening, dealing with byth/erioed in preterite and short versions. King goes with the standard wedi = erioed.

May 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/JSD83

I have found DuoLingo mostly helpful as a supplement to SSIW and workbook/in-class learning. It's much better for daily reinforcement, but if I were an absolute beginner, I would have way too many questions for Duo to be much help. I started with SSIW and did the entire first course twice before adding DuoLingo and finished the second course before starting in our intermediate class with the King books.

May 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/RowenaJane

It's like saying 'I never have been there'

August 16, 2017
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