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Curiosity

I have been having wandering thoughts about whether Duolingo is a successful tool in learning a language or not and i am unable to find any solid answers through Youtube or web results when coming across the reviews of others and what their personal opinion on the matter of pros and cons about the subject.

I have checked out another app called "Memrise" and from it, i have learned that there were certain functions different and some that are similar to Duolingo but from time to time i have noticed some strange phrases when using the Duolingo app for trying to learn French such as.. " La tortue mange des p√Ętes" basically saying that the turtle eats pasta which seems odd to me. Sentences like this make me wonder sometimes about some of the things i am learning with the app.

I apologize for any offense committed accidentally by this post, however, i do find that it is needed to have a solid answer about something in the matter of searching for language learning tools such as programs, sites, apps and books that can sometimes have misprints or repeated parts of the book in which could be seen was not the intended act but it remains existing nonetheless.

My concern is not with these small things but rather, with my confusion of what is being worked on, proceeded with and by whom. As with a previous topic i had mentioned before involving "Fictional languages" like when i log into the computer to browse through the list of languages they have to offer on this site as opposed to the app for mobile devices; ( I apologize if i am not using the semi-colon--> ; correctly) that i see Klingon for some reason but as an unfinished product for some strange reason.

If Klingon is to be worked on, perhaps a but more work could be applied to some of the other languages that are not entirely in perfect condition, as well as perhaps some other Older languages that have not yet been forgotten to be taught about. Old Norse and other cultures could be interesting. I don't intend to make a bother of the concept, but with the growing of one fictional language, it cannot be ignored for others as well.

If anyone has any ideas or concepts of similar topics, i would not mind discussing the possibilities of potential interest in these subjects. Some answers would be appreciated.

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February 20, 2017

7 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/hughcparker

Duolingo is a successful teaching tool, yes. The fact that the individual sentences aren't useful is irrelevant - you're studying how the language works, not reading a phrasebook.

There's been some academic research which shows that it's effective - you can find a link to that research on Wikipedia's article about Duolingo.

Different teams work on different courses; how much or how little work goes into Klingon or High Valyrian makes absolutely no difference to how much work the French team does.

February 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Andyp9559

What about if the topic was " why would they bother with Klingon and others such as Valyrian if they have not yet attempted other languages still of the spoken tongue today that are not fictional?" does that mean if someone has an idea of what language to bring up in the fictional realm, should it be given light now since Klingon clearly has been one already passed 10% but not yet even 50 or 60 % completed? how would i be able to explore that subject more through here on this sites discussion list?

February 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/hughcparker

There have been several discussions on that subject in these forums. Google is good for this sort of thing: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=klingon valyrian site:duolingo.com.

I think broadly speaking these have been the conclusions when this point has been raised:

  • most of us would have preferred to see a course for some other language rather than a constructed one from a fictional source

  • Duolingo was aiming to use those languages to bring in more users to the site

  • The decision has been made now, and it's extremely unlikely that Duolingo is going to remove these courses in response to our protests

  • Duolingo is a private company, and can launch whatever courses it likes

February 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Andyp9559

what about English - Japanese or English - Icelandic? i have not seen these in the listing but have seen Japenese - English which has me confused about some of Duolingos teaching priorities between fictional and more real spoken ones, not that i have a heavy issue with it, though perhaps it could be more informational as to what the staff plans to do from time to time and what projects they are working on, with given reason? maybe a message forum board or something

February 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/hughcparker

There is indeed a message forum board - you just posted on it :) The main Duolingo forum is where announcements about language courses etc are made.

Another source of information you might be interested in is the Incubator, where you can see which language courses are being built at the moment. Here's a link: https://incubator.duolingo.com/

February 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Andyp9559

You have given me some interesting information hughcparker, i will hope to use some of it. Granted that i remember it in the future for most part, but i thank you for it still. Much appreciation

February 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Lrtward

Some teach something specific: "Le singe mange une orange" (The monkey eats an orange) is good for teaching you that in French "singe" and "mange" rhyme even though they look very different..

Some sentences make you stop and go "Wait, what?!!" and think about why the sentence is constructed the way it is. It's easy to memorize phrases like "Where is the bathroom?" and "I'd like a table for two, please" but when you see "The turtle eats pasta" you are likely to double-check things. Is "mange" third person singular? Why does "des" go before "pates"? Is that really what the sentence means?

But a lot of them are just for fun.

February 20, 2017
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