https://www.duolingo.com/dgfinck

(Yet another) Finished my German tree post...

Just completed my German tree. I started a few years ago, back where there were "hearts" for each lesson. Got a bit ahead of myself by "playing the game" too much rather than actually learning. Lost interest for about a year. Came back and the hearts were gone, the German tree had been "re-vamped", and nothing was gold anymore... so it was almost like starting over.

This second time, I went much more slowly, and spent more time reviewing topics to "keep them gold." Took me about a year.

I now sit at 46% "fluent" (FWIW), Level 22, >22500XP, Translation tier 2 (before they killed that), and have 2340 words in my list. I still haven't broken 4.0 on the quiz (scored 0-5).

Time to start the "reverse tree", I suppose.

February 21, 2017

20 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/KenBookmye

Congratulations, I sit at 51% and seem stuck there I already did the reverse and definitely feel it was worth the time. Just a note for some reason my proficiency is much lower in English from German despite them both being gold daily

February 21, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/AnnaGuaGua

fluency is not accurate. None of them reach much more than 50-60%

February 21, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/BerithB

I too seem stuck - at 49% fluency. I have been working a lot and has very few errors. Why can't I reach 50% in German? I already reached 54% in Spanish with much less effort.

February 21, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/BaSsGaz

I'm very curious as to what your "real" fluency is in German after you finish the tree !! Do you understand most of what you read in German ? Would you say you can have a conversation with a native ?

February 21, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Lorel90

I know this question is not for me, but I will share my experience. After you finish the tree you are an advance beginner or intermediate level.

February 21, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/dgfinck

I'm not sure how to properly estimate my "real" fluency, but I'd say that 46% is almost certainly too high. I most certainly do NOT understand most of what I read in German (even German-language comments on here). I usually understand parts of it; and sometimes the gist of it, but rarely do I feel that I fully understand it immediately. I would say I could have an very simple conversation with a native, if that native spoke slowly and clearly, and was quite tolerant of my limited vocabulary and tenancy to use incorrect work order in German...

February 22, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Johanzel3

If I do the talking!

February 22, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Gyyrfalcon

CONGRATULATIONS! And just to let you know, Fluency is not very accurate because it does not count any words or rules that you may have picked up in other places. For Instance, according to Duolingo, I am only 27% Fluent in German. This is not true as I have learned mostly from Babbel and just simply reading books and newspapers in German. This, Simply is because Duolingo is not my "Primary Learning Platform". You, Most likely are much more fluent in German than Duolingo says you are.

February 21, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/only_human

Congratulations on completing this hugh tree.

I finished my German tree a day or so ago. I too let it languish for quite a while and when I came back the tree had dauntingly grown to an enormous size. Unlike seemingly everybody, I have less than 2000 words in my list (1946). The performance metrics might have detected a shakiness in my mastery because fourteen units have already decayed again away from gold. That also seems to be reflected in a low "fluency" measure of 32%.

February 21, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/dgfinck

I didn't realize how large the German (from English) tree was until I started the "reverse" (English from German) tree... and saw how small it is. It has less than half of the lessons (apparently). The German-from-English tree was all I knew, so I assumed they were all of similar size.

February 22, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Lorel90

Congrats!! Good job.

If you are learning German I recommend Memrise instead of the reverse tree. I also recommend to do the whole original tree again.

February 21, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/dgfinck

Thanks for the recommendation. I've actually been using Memrise as well (although less often than Duolingo) for much of the past year. I started with the Memrise official "A1" course (no longer offered), which I'm about 70% through now. I have also started the current "official" Memrise German offerings (they appear to have split it up into 7 or 8 different courses?). I've completed German 1; almost done with 2; part way though 3; and I've just started 4 (yes, doing some of them in parallel).

Just curious as to why you seem to not be a fan of the reverse tree?

February 22, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Lorel90

I think the reverse tree is interesting, but it takes time and there are better resources out there. Did you take the quiz? That is more accurate than the fluency rating, also if you want you can take one of the online CEFR. The online CEFRs are not accurate, but they are interesting because you can see your weak areas, you can start with A1 and if you get a high score do A2 and so on (pay attention to capitalization if you take the tests).

February 22, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/benedictnoon

hello I am fluent German but this thing says I am only 10% fluent .

February 21, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/TLMNTT

hello I am from Germany

February 21, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/TLMNTT

Hast du gut gemacht.

February 21, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Johanzel3

Mir auch!

February 22, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/TikoPiko

I gotta toot my own horn a bit here; I simply must! :)

I have just reached 57% fluency at about two thirds of the tree, all gold. I do multiple exercises a day and always stick to the overarching "Strengthening" ones, not individual "bubbles".

Ich denke, dass es geht mir schon gut! :P

February 22, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/benedictnoon

This is why I stoped the course

February 22, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/TikoPiko

You're entirely reliant on an arbitrary number to tell you how much, or even if, you've learnt? :)

February 22, 2017
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