https://www.duolingo.com/RaiNey037

Why you shound't finish your tree under lvl 20

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I've heard it's very rewarding to finish your tree, but when you do it early on you won't really know the language after sometime if you just quit and think you have learned it, when the tree is golden.

I'm lvl 16 im my french course at the moment, my xp Count for french is around 9500 xp which Means that i have done 950 french lessons at Duolingo.

If you are lvl 25 in a language, you have 30000 xp which Means you have done 3000 lessons at Duolingo

So even though i am over halfways to lvl 25 in my french lvl, i've not done half of the lessons required for lvl 25.

Even though it takes along time to get to a high lvl, you should just keep on fighting.

I hope this helped someone realize that finishing your tree so soon as possible ins't the best option in my opinion. Feel free to post your own opinion!

1 year ago

13 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/rspreng

Repeating lessons does not necessarily mean you know any more of a language. If I say I took algebra three times before I passed, and another person got an A the first time through, who is better at algebra, do you think? If someone has a gift for learning a language there is no reason to slow down simply for the sake of slowing down.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/matfran2001
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It really depends on many different things.

I usually finish my trees at level 15 or 16 or even higher (languages that I started here completely from scratch). I finished German at level 20 because that tree is huge.

But if a person has already some knowledge of a given language, it is not that strange to finish a tree at level 10 or 11 (of course for a truly beginner to end a tree at level 10 or 11 would be completely useless, though).

When you start getting 5.00/5.00 all the time in the Progress Quiz (regardless of the level and fluency score of your tree), then you know that you have retained most (or at least a good amount) of the vocabulary and grammar that the tree offers you. Even then, I keep doing review lessons.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FreedomWind

To evaluate what I learnt, I also feel that getting success in the Progress Quiz is a good indication of my skills. Thanks for mentioning it.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RaiNey037
RaiNey037
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thanks for the input!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Akvamariin
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Yes, but if you finish the tree quickly that means you'll be able to put more time into more interesting exercises like reading texts, watching videos, writing and so on. I probably won't do more German here unless I feel I'm forgetting words in a topic, because other methods offer more vocabulary and so on.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FrankKool
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I agree that repeating lessons is important, and I disagree about level 20. Reaching such a high level basically means that you'll be repeating the same exercises to the point where you've simply memorized all the correct answers, but that adds little to your command of the language.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EnglishTutorJay
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I blitzed my Spanish tree very quickly, however, because I go over every lesson regularly I keep that learnt knowledge stored in my unconscious. It's just a case of bringing it forward so I can use it in conversations (which I find difficult).

But yeah, everyone is different and in reality levels don't mean anything.

Go at your own pace

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3
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Having the golden owl at the end (quickly) by no means implies you can't head right back up even to the very top to firm things up through review. For instance, I like to have something of a broader view before going back skill by skill much more intensively. Of course it really depends on how you define "finishing" a tree. I've never seen it clearly be used to mean "come to the decision you've learned all that it is rationally worth it to learn from it at this juncture." But I think that's a much more useful concept than just happening to have run through all the skills.

From what you've written it sounds like you've never tried timed practice (which can generate point levels ≠ 10). You should. At least to try it. If you find it challenging, that just means it's helping you :)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/sheldolina
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Of course everybody should go at their own pace, but personally I'm with you! I actually arranged it so that my final lesson to complete the Italian tree also put me at level 25 :)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/gingerninja3148

True. I finished my German tree on level 23 or 24. I am on level 19 for Portuguese right now but I am not finished yet. In fact I have close to 20 skills left (I have worked really slowly on this one). I think the level you finish on also reflects the length of the tree itself and not just the pace of the learner as I finished my Esperanto tree on quite a low level but it is a short tree in comparison to longer courses such as Norwegian and German.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PixelDrift
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I've just finished my tree at level 20, and I never rushed anything, I always progressed through the course at my own pace making sure I understood things properly before moving on.

Obviously everyone learns at their own pace, and I think what you get out of Duolingo depends on your attitude to studying with it. I think the gamification of the site has done a lot for motivation, but some people try and get through it as fast as possible, and if you don't take the time to make sure you actually understand the content, you're less likely to remember it and become familiar with it.

That being said, people can do as they wish, and I hold nothing against people who complete their tree faster than I did, after all, we're all here to learn languages for personal reasons, it's not a competition ;)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/RaiNey037
RaiNey037
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thanks for all the great responses

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/EnriqueC.FR

Agreed, thanks for the tip, I've been recently trying to go through many lessons but I'm sure that's not the right thing to do because I'll just barely learn a lesson then move on to another without remembering the last lesson too well. I think it's better to thoroughly study each lesson enough to where it's well comprehended rather than just finishing it and moving on. I will try to follow this guideline from now on.

1 year ago
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