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Dutch Practice

Does anyone have some good techniques on how to practice pronunciation of Dutch words while learning German at the same time? It's very confusing for me :|

1 year ago

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Nice to hear you like to learn Dutch!
As a Dutch native speaker I think it will be easier to finish first the German tree. Then the 'reverse tree', the course 'English for German speakers', because there you have to write more in German. And after that, do the Dutch course and the 'reversed tree'.

1 year ago

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okay thanks

1 year ago

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Clever!! I like the sound of that! Mind.Blow. haha

1 year ago

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Listen to both languages, listen to them A LOT. As a native Dutch speaker I can assure you that Dutch and German are pronounced differently from each other. When listening to the languages you should try to listen for some sort of underlying pattern, accent, a particular way of pronouncing sounds. (if that makes sense)

Just listen to 'Hallo' and other words written the same on Forvo. Detect the differences.

Notice how in German the focus is on the A? (hAllo)

In Dutch the focus is on the O. (hallO)

You need to listen for these differences. It will help with differentiating between them.

Veel succes!

1 year ago

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ohhh thanks thats so helpful

1 year ago

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Yeah, I don't recommend learning German and Dutch at the same time. They're too similar and you'll get your words mixed up (this I know from experience) and it will be incredibly irritating any time you try to have a simple conversation lol

1 year ago

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When I start learning a language, first of all I try to know all the sounds. In Dutch, there can be three ways to pronounce the 'r' according to the region (at least I've read so). Also the 'u' is pronounced in another way. Know all the sounds and practice !! You're so brave learning both Dutch and German at the same time.

1 year ago

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There are more than three ways in fact. :) I think there are about five or six different variants. I have two distinct r sounds myself (maybe three). I have (at least) the alveolar trill [r] and alveolar approximant [ɹ]. Both appear, in the described order, in the word raar (so first the trill, the latter is the approximant for me).

Some have r as a uvular trill [ʀ] (this is the Standard German r in rot). Some have the voiced uvular fricative [ʁ] (this is the (Standard) French r in roue). Some have a retroflex approximant [ɻ] (to me this sounds like my approximent, but then "overdone", it's typically seen as posh). Some even make a vowel sound, specifically the [ɐ]. An example known to many Dutch would be "vroegah" rather than "vroeger" (back in those days, back then).

Counting these gives five or six (depending on the inclusion of [ɐ]) at least. :) Some (very) rare realisations may include e.g. the retroflex flap [ɽ].

1 year ago

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Wow! Very interesting and hard !!

1 year ago

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1 year ago