https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

The end of a long road!

Finally, after 294 days and 30007 XP, I've made it to level 25 in French. It is a good sense of achievement to have stuck with it and completed a personal goal. Self motivation was difficult at certain stages, I will admit. I am posting this to encourage others to follow through and achieve their goals too - it can be done :)

Thanks to the community at large and those who have helped along the way.

Time to set a new goal! :)

March 8, 2017

55 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jocelyn-H

Congratulations! Time to triple up and learn a third language =)

March 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

heh, you're right! I like to concentrate on one at a time, hence the lack of other languages yet. Not sure my brain could handle them all at once, so you are certainly doing well! :)

March 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lorel90

Congratulations!!!

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Merci!

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Liebert_

Félicitations! C'est une grande réussite!

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Merci! Mais, j'ai encore beaucoup à apprendre!

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NtateNarin

Amazing and a BIG CONGRATULATIONS! Welcome to the Level 25 French club!

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Thankyou! Great to be joining you at 25 :)

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Puru..

Congrats Jason! It surely is inspiring. I read in one of your earlier comments that you also use Memrise. Can you take some time and put in your thoughts on using Memrise and how it is different than Duo? Thanks already.

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Thanks for the congrats :)

I try and use as many different tools / apps as possible in learning. Duo and Memrise are but two. Both are excellent in their own ways. I've always preferred Duo for the most part as it is a better tool for learning language structure. Memrise, as others have noted elsewhere, is good for building vocabulary. It also has a lot of native french speaking video / voices which helps greatly (for me) with listening skills. The listening activities on Duo have often frustrated me! Memrise seems very strict on the answers you can give - it must match the previously provided example no matter what. Duo is great in that you can translate an answer in many different ways (as in real life) and still be marked correct. Memrise lets you translate an answer one way only, using set words. I guess, in the end, don't just rely on one. Duo is great but other sources will also help you immensely. Try both, plus others :)

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DavidBwell

what are some of the other resources that you've tried and found helpful?

March 10, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Books (including old language text books), language CDs, other learning tools (like Lingvist - though not too keen on that one), etc. Pretty much anything helps. I did a course years ago with the Alliance Francaise which was good, too.

March 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Puru..

Thanks a ton, Jason! Will definitely try Memrise.

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AmayaLynx

Tres bien JasonGreen534670!

I've just picked up my French again (after being almost fluent about 20 years ago in college) so I am encouraged by your results. I'm hoping it will help me with my work as I am in a new job where I need to visit France and speak with French colleagues (though they all speak English! Ha!).

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AlexandraM5483

That's a perfect opportunity for you to learn. :)

March 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Brien576388

good job :) how confident do you feel in french now that youve finished it?

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Well, a lot more than when I started ;)

Duo is great, but can't take you all the way. I also use Memrise, which I find more helpful with regards to listening skills. Overall I feel pretty confident reading and writing. Speaking is, along with listening, the most difficult aspect - I still need to think before I speak (which is never a bad thing).

In the end, learning a language is a continual process. At least we're all giving it a shot!

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/salmaelnour

Toutes nos félicitations!

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/salmaelnour

C'est une grande réussite !

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Merci beaucoup! :)

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PurrmaidQueen

Oh yay! Now I know it will approximately take 300 days to achieve it... Congrats, and well done for doing it all in one streak too! I stated 49 days ago, had a 46 day streak... and missed a day, I keep on kicking myself for it! Anyways, I have done half of my tree and am able to have a basic conversation, so I'm hopeful that by the end of it I will be more or less fluent... I am also using a lot of other leaning tools of course. How fluent would you say you are now? How often do you practice French (I mean listening etc)?

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Thanks for the congratulations :) Yes, it took me 294 days start to finish but I could have finished it sooner with more application. In the end, though, it is not a race to the finish. The trick is learning as much as you can along the journey. I wouldn't profess to be totally fluent. As I mentioned previously, Duo can't get you there by itself. I do practice every day - reading, writing and listening. However, it is not total immersion unfortunately. That's the ultimate way to learn. I do what I can each day to get myself to fluency. There's only so much you can do when you are the only one around you learning/speaking the language though :) Then it becomes all about self motivation.

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LanguageButcher

Congratulations! How are your speaking and listening skills? My pronunciation is terrible and je parle francais comme une vache espagnole. My listening skill is also terrible. Can't understand a word people say :-(

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Well, I like Spanish cows, heh. I'm certainly not 100% on either, but I'm still trying every day. Repetition is the key, no matter how boring it may seem. Keep up the practice and you'll get there (as I hope I will one day!)

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/yahuwa

congrats!

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Thanks! :)

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jumonor

Congratulations¡¡¡¡ You are an example of perseverance for all of us.

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Satyameva123

Congratulations! And Thank You for your encouragement.

March 10, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Thankyou! Any time :)

March 10, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Chartreux

Congratulations ! I read where listening/speaking is a source of difficulty. I've been trying out Slow News in French which I have to say is pretty cool but it does require a subscription. Bonne Chance !

March 10, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Thankyou! Also, thanks for the Slow News tip - I'd not heard of it before

March 10, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dagobertinchen

Congratulations! It seems to me like a very long road to go.... I just had a look: I would need another 22,000 XP (I have finished the tree already and keep it golden), which must eventually become very repetitive, non?

March 10, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Thanks! It certainly does take a lot of time and effort. Unfortunately, repetitiveness is one of the main keys to learning a language. Once you get past the thought of the repetition, everything starts to stick in your mind more and more each time until you just know it.

It is a long road, but the journey is worth it. You'll get there! :)

March 10, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FredMefford

Way to go! I'm looking forward to reaching level 25 myself.

March 10, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

That's the spirit! Keep it up, you're well on your way

March 10, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jhink34

Great job! I will agree on your one point about at some points it is hard to keep that self-motivation. Great job on pushing through though. I have started my French back up in the past couple of days. I am surprised it only took you 294 days. Good Job!

March 10, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Thanks! Towards the end I set myself a goal of under 300 days. Early on it was slow going, but I got better towards the end stage.

March 11, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/roserojesus

felicitations!!

March 10, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Merci!

March 11, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ayub_MS

congrats buddy

March 10, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Cheers!

March 11, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CutePuppie3

Wow! Am I impressed! I just got to level 4 I think, but 25? Way to go!

March 11, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

You'll get there :)

March 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PeggyFromOK

Congrats! Just beginning this journey... Excited.

March 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Thanks! Enoy the journey :)

March 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/blflame

Congratulations! This is quite an achievement!

But what's an XP point? I think I have only levels, lingots and percentages of fluency. Incidentally, how are percentages of fluency related to levels? I generally have the same levels of French and Spanish, but about 10% higher fluency in French (which I do know better).

Reg. discussion of oral skills in this thread, I joined mostly for the sake of oral comprehension, since I find that reading books helps build vocabulary the best, and once I click on "check" to move to the next phrase, I always take my eyes off the screen to listen, then type a translation if I can, and only then look at the phrase in the target language on the screen to check myself. If I translated it wrong or didn't get it, I click on the icon to hear it again, occasionally even more than once till I hear it clearly.

But for speaking, I find that writing diary entries in the target language is the best. I do it with both French and Spanish, and I find it much easier to think in these languages now. It also helps learn the words that relate to one's regular activities and topics of interest, as well as make tense usage and formation automatic.

March 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EndieCee

The diary entries are a good idea. I don't think I could put together good enough sentences and would probably end up being one line like 'Aujourd'hui j'ai mangé du poulet. Bonne nuit' lol how sad. But yea, I might try that.

March 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Thanks! You get XP, usually 10 per lesson depending on what you are doing, which add up towards attaining a new level. XP for each level:

1 - 0, 2 - 60, 3 - 120, 4 - 200, 5 - 300, 6 - 450, 7 - 750, 8 - 1,125, 9 - 1,650, 10 - 2,250, 11 - 3,000, 12 - 3,900, 13 - 4,900, 14 - 6,000, 15 - 7,500, 16 - 9,000, 17 - 10,500, 18 - 12,000, 19 - 13,500, 20 - 15,000, 21 - 17,000, 22 - 19,000, 23 - 22,500, 24 - 26,000, 25 - 30,000

https://www.duolingo.com/comment/2261330

Re: XP

"What are skill points, or XP?

When you learn on Duolingo, you earn points, and we call them experience points, or XP for short.

You earn XP any time you perform a task that improves your language skills. These tasks include finishing a lesson, practicing skills that are no longer golden, translating sentences, and rating others’ translations."

https://support.duolingo.com/hc/en-us/articles/204905880-What-are-skill-points-or-XP-

Re: Fluency

" What does my Fluency Score mean?

Fluency measures your mastery of the vocabulary and grammar of a language and your ability to understand and produce the language.

Duolingo estimates your fluency based on your progress through the skill tree and the accuracy of your answers. Because learning a language requires repetition, we also take into account how regularly you practice. Without continued practice, your fluency score will decline, based on our model of how the human brain forgets over time.

With Duolingo, you can achieve a fluency as high as 50-60%. Keep in mind that the Duolingo fluency score is solely based on your Duolingo activity, and does not take into account any external activities you may engage in to improve your foreign language skills."

https://support.duolingo.com/hc/en-us/articles/205933480

Hope that helps :)

Good idea with the diary, but as EndieCee wrote, I've never been good with diaries :)

March 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FredMefford

I'm thinking that a 300 day streak would be a good goal.

March 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

I agree. I'll do that tomorrow ;)

March 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lburt7

Hello there, Congratulations. How many hours did you learn French per day? I am only on level 4. I am motivated because my daughter is in French immersion school and i would like to help and support her.

March 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Thankyou! I tried to set aside an hour each day, though somedays it was more than that - depending on what else I had to do! Somedays it was a lot less - 10 minutes or so - but even a little each day helps. The trick is to do at least something each day. That's where the streak feature kept me motivated.

March 10, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/canncetinn

congratulations :)

March 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JasonGreen534670

Thank you! :)

March 12, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/EricHuang22

congratulation on achieving your goal!!!

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