This page really helps understand the MANY MANY uses of 'hacer'
Why is the correct answer "I make the same question"? No one says that. Sometimes I really wonder about this site's ability to teach natural speech patterns when they come up with constructions like that. Granted, "I ask the same question" would probably be better than "I have the same question" (which is what I said) if you're narrating an action rather than doing it... but most of the time, if you're saying "I", you're in the process of doing something, right? And I think the "I have..." would be more likely to be used in an actual situation. Does anyone else feel like there's not enough leeway for idiomatic speech?
You are applying English speech patterns to the Spanish language. This is a Spanish lesson.Try not to use your knowledge of English to judge Spanish speech patterns, it will slow down your learning process. This is why children learn faster, they listen and repeat rather than compare their words to previously learned languages. It is very Zen, you just relax and let go of what you already know, this leaves room for new knowledge to enter.
Roger, I wasn't trying to judge their Spanish, rather comment on their English translation of Spanish. As a native English speaker, I feel qualified to say what feels natural in conversation in my own language. At any rate, there appear to have been changes made since I made the comment, since it now says "I ask the same question" as the translation for the "Hago la misma pregunta", rather than the "I make" construction that I commented on.
I have been thinking about language learning quite a bit, as all of us have. One of my goals is to speak Spanish by thinking Spanish rather than thinking English and then doing a mental translation to Spanish. My point is that native Spanish speakers are more likely to "make a question" rather than "ask a question." This is the route I would idealy follow in conversation. Now if I were to translate an advertising brochure fro Spanish to English, I would do a word for word literal translation and then make a second pass to convert this intermediate product to a form of English most palatable to my target audience. If I can get to the point that I can think in Spanish, I think I can always do a fair job of translation. My chance of ever translating in real time are probably zero and none.
I found that supplementing Duo with podcasts really helps as you also learn idiomatic everyday expressions, rather than just literal translations; not to mention a better grasp of (barely)following a conversation. Like asking a bartender "Me pone una cerveza": Put me a beer :)
Alena, I started with Lightspeed Spanish because they sounded like normal people and not reading off a script. However the very reason I liked them was also the same reason I eventually stopped: their ability to go off-tangent, whilst entertaining, ended up being frustrating, wasting valuable time in the already short 10min podcast! But they do come up with some great colloquial gems like the one above! I'm now listening to the first 4 in this list: http://www.fluentu.com/spanish/blog/spanish-podcasts/
I don't know why you got down voted. This is good advice. This is why automatic translators have a hard time. Direct translations don't always make sense and some intelligence is often needed to make an accurate jump into another language. How you say something in spanish is not how you would say it in English, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't make sense in Spanish, and of course if we are learning spanish, we need to learn how it is said in Spanish.
Most exercises in this program subtract a heart if you give an unnatural English translation, even if it is a correct literal translation. This exercise is different. Therefore, I think Duolingo made a mistake in this particular sentence. If "hacer una pregunta" is normal Spanish, then the English equivalent is "to have a question". I believe that Duolingo sometimes (eventually) corrects programming mistakes as they are constantly striving to improve the software. Someone should report this one so that they can correct it.
That said, the ability to think in another language comes with practice and vocabulary building. A toddler learning its first language has limited ability to reason, because it has no language with which to do so. As the child's vocabulary increases, so does the ability to have complex thoughts. As adults we already have complex thoughts in our first language, so we continue to reason in our first language and try to translate to our second language until we have enough words in our brain to think in the second. The transition happens automatically as we practice and learn the new language.
How do I know this? My German professor told me so, and my own experience learning German as a second language was consistent with that.
Duolingo tends to flip back and forth with the literal translations and the "correct" translations. I have seen this since the beginning, not just this one. We get use to them and remember them, until we just forget that there were others. :)
I have been in conversations about this before which is why I remember this.
Have you ever noticed that sometimes native Spanish speakers in America will say a sentence "awkwardly"? It's sentences like this that cause them to do so. We just don't have word for word translations.
@bjpeat- I wanted to type in "I asked the same question" but I figured past tense wasn't correct.
Yes, I agree that Duolingo is not consistent. Sometimes a literal translation is accepted, even if it is unusual, and sometimes it's counted wrong. I think this is the result of (a) different people writing different parts of the program and (b) the difficulty of programming the software to intelligently evaluate our answers. Try as they might, the DL robot is not as smart as people. We can help Duolingo by reporting incorrect translations.
I have the same thoughts on DL teaching system. Yesterday I stumbled upon this app, by accident. It's quite similar to DL but the voice is not robot-like and they actually do explain new stuff. You can check it out, it's called SpeakTribe. And no, they didn't pay me to write it here :(