https://www.duolingo.com/cally4

Lack of Hebrew vowels on keyboard.

I am being marked "almost correct" on some things because I haven't added the vowels to make it clear for instance that something is "yafe" rather than "yafa".

I use a Samsung keyboard. Are there keyboards with vowels? Although I don't really fancy downloading other keyboards really...

What is everyone else doing?

Thanks.

March 24, 2017

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https://www.duolingo.com/amire80
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Since a few weeks ago it became possible to type vowels in the Gboard app—Google's own keyboard. I strongly recommend it. I switched from Samsung keyboard to it.

To type the vowels, type the consonant first, and then hold down the letter that begins the name of the vowel sign:

Patakh, Hataf Patakh: פ

Kamats, Hataf Kamats: ק

Segol, Hataf Segol: ס

Tsere: צ

Hirik: ח

Holam and Shuruq go with the letter Vav, so hold down Vav (ו) to type them.

Dagesh is the same character as Shuruq, and it's available also on Dalet (ד).

Kubuts is on ק, together with Kamats, even though it's a different sound.

For Shin and Sin dots, use the letter Shin (ש).

A similar system exists on Windows since Windows 8, and on recent desktop Linux systems (since 2013 or so). Use the Alt key and the above letters to type the vowels.

For Kubuts, use \ (the backslash; mnemonic: it's diagonal, like the dots in Kubuts).

For Shin and Sin dots, use the Q and W on a QWERTY keyboard (mnemonic: they are above ש on the physical keyboard).

For Hataf characters, use the key to the right of the letter:

Hataf Patakh: ]

Hataf Kamats: ר

Hataf Segol: ב

If you use a Mac, I recommend installing the keyboard layout at https://github.com/amire80/Mac-Hebrew-Standard-1452-2012-Keyboard/ (you can also type the vowels on the Hebrew keyboard layouts that Apple provides, but they have a lot of problems, and I don't recommend them).

April 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/daal39
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Thanks for explaining how to do this though I must say it is extremely cumbersome. As a beginner I neither know nor at this stage want to know the names of the vowel signs. It seems odd that the android keyboards do not offer the intuitive option of long pressing the consonant to add the vowel.

July 5, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Stweiss2

I just don't use them. Besides the fact that I don't really feel like learning the locations of all the vowels on the keyboard, I think it ultimately helps you read Hebrew better if you get used to not including the vowels from the getgo. Also, as others have already said, you will still generally get credit for your sentences despite the "typo."

April 22, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/xnaut

This is quite odd. I have never encountered these problems. Perhaps it is because I solely learn Hebrew on the mobile Duolingo App, and Hebrew keyboards on mobile phones do not give the option to include vowels. From the way you've written your concern here, I am going to assume that you are also learned Hebrew via the mobile app.

Regardless, I recall from when the Hebrew course was first released when the course contributors made it clear that they wanted to try to teach Hebrew without the vowels, as modern Israeli Hebrew does not utilize vowels in day-to-day communication.

Whenever I type the word יפה, I type it with no vowels and it is accepted every time.

March 24, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/cally4

Interesting. Although I have the app, for some reason I've been using the website but on my mobile. Will try the app and see if that solves it, or screenshot it if it happens again. Feel hard done by!

March 24, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/ogkloo

I've also had this happen several times, but it's not outright rejected, it just accepts it, with a typo. I don't believe this is intentional, because most IMEs don't seem to support adding them. At least mine through ibus doesn't.

March 24, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/inbarggg

I've never encountered vowels on a mobile device. That's how little we use these...

March 27, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/ogkloo

So I finally got one where it actually straight up rejected my answer due to niqqud not being present. Normally it just gives me "almost correct" if the correct answer had them. Either that or I'm incurably bad at spelling: https://i.imgur.com/5tUkmik.png

April 13, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/amire80
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... Also, as much as I personally love the Hebrew vowels, I acknowledge that typing them is hard, and not typing them must not be considered a mistake by the software.

April 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/ShnizelInBag

I am from Israel, and I never seen option to use vowels on any mobile keyboard, I think its possible only on pc, but i am not sure how

April 26, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/amire80
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See my answer right here on this page. It explains what to do on Android phones and on desktops and laptops. (I don't know about Apple phones.)

April 26, 2017
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