Ever heard of Yunus Emre Institute?
While googling I found a new website that seems to be similar to Duolingos methodology of teaching Turkish. It's in beta and it is offering a free membership until July. Its: https://turkce.yee.org.tr
I've just registered and it seems to be in its starting phases, most of the dialogue boxes still in Turkish. But it has some novel features; such as accumulating points to pay for live lessons and such.
Has anyone used it before? And for people that have finished the Turkish tree, would it supplement the knowledge we gained or is it similar?
I tried it, but I didn't really like it. The lesson was way too long and I got bored and tired before I finished it so I didn't get any points. On the other hand you have the option of continuing the lesson later, so I guess I'll be able to get my points eventually. The lesson had 20 vocabulary words which is too many at one time for a beginner. I knew the words so it wasn't a problem, but you had to look at a picture and choose the words, listen and choose the picture, look at the picture and choose the audio, look at the pictures and write the words, and then there was an exercise using a microphone but I spoke and nothing happened although my microphone was working properly and it appeared to be recording. It wanted me to speak all 20 words. I deliberately made a mistake with one word to see if anything happened, but it didn't. I gave up after half a dozen words because it just seemed pointless. There may have been a technical problem, but I don't really care enough to explore this.
Some of the pictures are good, but some of them are not useful at all. Nouns were no problem but the pictures for the expressions were difficult to understand. You wouldn't be able to learn that way. They actually wrote the word you had to choose in the picture for some of them. It wasn't useful at all. They had the same picture for nasılsın and for ıyıyım. They just underlined the word. It didn't explain what it meant at all. You'd have to use a dictionary. In fact, if you were a complete beginner, there would be serious problems with some of the vocabulary. It wouldn't be possible to learn the meaning. Some of it was OK.
The exercises are timed, and this is an issue for the listening activities because it takes time to listen to each one, and if you want to listen to them all more than once you might run out of time, not because you don't know but because you need some time to think.
The materials that I had access to were just the beginner modules. Like Duolingo, you can't skip ahead. If you have finished the Duolingo Turkish tree, it's not very useful yet. The lessons that I had access to were the alphabet, basic expressions, nouns, and people (starts with family members and there are 12 words. I didn't bother looking at all of them).
When they introduce more levels it might be OK, but for the moment, it is not a website that is of any use to me.
Thank you for the very detailed reply!
I noticed some of the same things. And to add to that, I found the dictionary function to be lacking. For the A1 level you are meant to learn 1000 words, but there are not words that a beginner would find particularly useful. For example, about 100/1000 words are about household appliances. I would rather have invested that time learning words such as "var" and "yok" that have a much higher frequency of usage in spoken Turkish.
On the other hand, I did appreciate that the sound recordings were made by natives. Even 3 weeks into my Duolingo Turkish tree, and I could not pick up on the differences between o/ö and u/ü.
At the moment, I'll see about trying to play 20 mins daily on the website and see where it goes from there. I am still at a level in my Turkish tree where I can still find some benefit from it. Also, it seems that they plan to eventually expand the website until level C2 and that there are some Turkish PhD's working on it. And seeing that it seems to be subsidized by the government (for the promotion of Turkish culture) I am optimistic for it.
I'll post an update on my progress after a month, if anyone has any questions on the website please let me know.
Duolingo's listening exercises are horrible, aren't they? I turned them off until I finished the tree and then I turned them back on for review. They didn't help with my learning at all. There is a website called Turkish Tea Time. You can listen to dialogues spoken by native speakers and then listen to a discussion of the grammar and vocabulary. I enjoy it, and I'm learning from it as well. The dialogues don't always sound very professional but you can hear native speakers using a variety of grammatical structures in a systematic and quite entertaining way.
I prefer Memrise to this website. It is vocabulary based, but there are lot of exercises involving verb conjugation which I found very helpful. The sound files are much better than they used to be.
I would be interested to read your updates. I'm not particularly optimistic because Intermediate learners tend to get ignored. They couldn't use flash card based learning to introduce more advanced concepts easily, so they would have to change the whole style of learning as they got beyond the beginner level.
I've tried Turkish Tea Time, they are very strong but it seems that they have stopped updating it :( I really appreciate that they speak at the normal rate of Turkish speakers, most learning material over exaggerate the pronunciation of words. And while that is good for the beginners, it is not doing any favors for you in the future. Also I really appreciated them mentioning how you would most likely hear words pronounced on the street (Like Meraba vs Merhaba).
On the other hand, I could not really get into Memrise. I prefer to personally encode frequency lists myself into Anki with my pictures/mnemonics. I found it helps me much more with memory retention, but that could just be me.
I will update on the website regarding how suitable it is for post-Duolingo/intermediate users. If they manage to properly implement the live coach feature, it could very well be satisfactory.