Finished my 3rd tree!
Just finished my 3rd tree which was Portuguese! It's such a beautiful language and I definitely recommend trying it! Can't wait to finish more trees:)
Italian, Spanish, and Portuguese are so similar. Do you find you get them mixed up? I have trouble with Spanish and French sometimes and they're nowhere near as similar.
I didn't have too much trouble although I was already at a pretty decent(ish) fluency with each language when I started learning the other but sometimes if I'm not paying attention I'll switch languages in mid sentence haha and thank you so much!
obrigado! And probably Italian, but Spanish and Chinese are a close second haha
Congrats! Portuguese is one of my favourites. Such a beautiful language. It was my first tree on Duo. Ah, memories.
Wow! Congratulations! I think I might try out Portuguese, it sounds kind of cool. Is there any other languages you recommend?
Thank you! And yeah definately try out portuguese! I would have to say italian is probably my favorite though, and the grammar isnt to difficult(which is always a plus haha)
Parabéns =D I've finished the English and Spanish trees. I'm doing the German tree right now but to reach this 3rd tree I think it's gonna take some time haha. Actually, I plan to start Italian soon, so I think this one could get faster for me.
Obrigado! Good luck with your german tree, and Italian should come quicker for you plus I believe it's shorter than the german tree haha
Parabéns! Português é uma língua famosa por sua dificuldade, foi uma ótima conquista!
This is so cool that you have been learning Spanish for 6 years (if I read correctly in another thread).
Would you say that the 89% lexican similary (http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/e/languages/similarities/index.html) helps you understanding (reading, listening) very much in the other language, once you learned the first?
And does it really speed up the learning process (~6 month?) in the second language, once you learned the first Romance language?
After ~4-5 months of my Portuguese DuoLingo tree I once tried to test out some Spanish skills / including intro comprehension test and the basic (10%?) vocabulary (persons, basic verbs) seems to be quite different.
I failed quite badly. That didn't work out to any level.
So I do not profit from this 89% lexican similarity yet :-)
Well, I had no plans to really try to learn Portuguese and Spanish in parallel, but I was wondering where to find better resources / better PT course material, more speaking directed: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/20736135$comment_id=21041891.
I would say I am still trying to fight somehow through the Memrise and DuoLingo Portuguese courses and at this time I have not yet switched to Spanish ;)
As having to review once again over 450 words for my PT BR DuoLingo course on Memrise get's somehow boring and timeconsuming (words alone, no sentences, many basic form verbs) again, I decided to take a short break and start the Memrise offical PT BR 2 course in parallel (Basic + PT1 finished).
Very good and faster progress forward with PT1: 13/20 levels completed, 224/355 words (sentence phrases) learned in only 5 days; it may get easier with previous PT1, Basics, DuoLingo,...).
I can already tell that learning Portuguese from scratch without any previous Romance language skills might take me at least 1,5-3++ years to get to any basic level and it will take more than one year to finish this PT DuoLingo tree.
First of all thank you!!!! When I first started learning Italian my Spanish did help quite a bit but I loved learning Italian(and still do) so I did invest quite a bit of time the first several months(most days 5 hours but I'm also an insomniac so I had the time haha). I found that teaching myself Italian was somewhat more beneficial than in a classroom because I was learning at my pace and I found that it was easier to find answers to questions I had versus asking a teacher who didn't love her job anymore haha. I would say now that my Italian has probably surpassed my Spanish(when it comes to vocab) but my pronunciation isn't as good as my Spanish and I've been studying Italian for almost 1.5 years now so there are a lot different things to factor in when it comes to how much time it'll take to learn a language. As for resources I recommend ielanaguages.com and practice makes perfect workbooks(you can find them on amazon) . Good luck with your studying and hope that helps!
5 hours a day, wow!
1.5 years is a long time, isn't it?
So you would agree with my learning Portuguese in "maybe 1,5-3 years" thesis? :-)
Do you do time and activity tracking in an Excel sheet?
I can't remember the site/blog, but there was a learner online community, where you can use twitter #commands to tell the bot what it should track and the script generates from you and all other current language learners a nice time / language tracking weekly / total webpage.
A simple excel spreadsheet might be easier, like this: https://blog.skritter.com/2013/07/using-time-tracking-with-language-studies/
it is but I had probably reached the same fluency as my Spanish in about 9 or 10 months but was conversation and had learned all the grammar by 4 months, but I want to be fluent in both Italian and Spanish so I practice Italian almost everyday and Spanish a few times a week. Portuguese came a lot faster although I haven't learned all the grammar yet. I haven't used an excel sheet in awhile so thanks for that! I usually keep track in a notebook these days haha. You can definitely achieve fluency in Portuguese in that amount of time, if it's your fist romance language it might take more time however depending on your the resources you use, how often you can practice with a native speaker and how often you studying it you can definitely reach your goal sooner! Depending on the fluency you want to reach depends on the time like with my experience with Italian you can definitely become conversational or decently fluent in 3-4 months