love you sitesurf. seriously. i have given SO SO SO SO SO many correct english translations that were marked incorrect by the great backoffice works at duolingo that if it weren't free, i'd have stopped long ago. it's aggravating as HELL!
that's what i JUST put in. elles les ecoutent. i have a myriad of cuss words for duolingo. their stupid stupid stupid lack of english comprehension is insane, too.
Since your kind request was so nicely put, I have disabled the audio for that sentence. Therefore it will no longer be proposed in dictation so that nobody will have to make the effort of remembering that the sentence is in singular.
Duolingo is currently working on a better system to identify homophones and accept correct alternatives. It seems it is not an easy task and most of the time, the system still compares your (singular/plural) proposal to the written original (plural/singular) sentence.
Apparently, we still have to be patient...
Wouldn't "to them" imply that the direct objects are people? It seems like "She listens to them" would be better translated as "Elle leur écoute" as a pluralization of "Elle lui écoute" (She listens to him/her). "Elle les écoute" seems more like "She listens to those" since les is just the plural of le or la and "Elle l'écoute" would mean "She listens to that/it."
No, it does not work like that, because "écouter" is a transitive verb (no preposition need for the direct object)
"Les" can stand for human beings, animals or things.
- elle écoute son père => elle l'écoute
- elle écoute ses parents => elle les écoute
- elle écoute la mésange => elle l'écoute (checkadee)
- elle écoute un discours or une chanson => elle l'écoute (a speech or a song)
- elle écoute les musiques => elle les écoute
I was confused for the same reason graymelon was. So what are some other examples of transitive verbs with which you would used "le/la/les" instead of "lui/leur" because they don't require prepositions for direct objects?
All transitive verbs (no preposition needed) will get the direct object in front of the verb, when that object is a pronoun.
"lui/leur" are indirect objects when the verb is constructed with preposition "à"
elle donne un livre => elle le donne (she gives it)
elle donne un livre à son père => elle le lui donne (she gives it to him)
thank you, that all makes sense, but the thing I don't get about this sentence in particular is that is seems like it should take a preposition after "écoute". "she listens TO them", so to me, a more correct translation should be "elle lui écoute". to me, "elle les ecoute" means "she listens them" which doesn't make any sense without the preposition. Is it simply that you can't think of it in this sense, of literal translations?
So, you just have to read again what I previously wrote above.
In addition, please remember that French is not a mere, word to word translation of English and vice-versa.
It might be better to think of the verb 'écouter' as 'to listen to', rather than just 'to listen'. What English expresses using 'to' is part of the verb in French, you don't need a preposition like 'à'.
elle les écoute : subject singular -> verb in 3rd person singular + "les" direct object of transitive verb "écouter".
elle leur écoute : this cannot work because "leur" means "à elles/to them" and verb écouter does not require a preposition.
Why does Duo not accept 'She obeys them'? Can écouter not also mean 'to obey'? as in: 'Her parents say she is good girl, she listens to them.'
Thanks for teaching me this verb, Aasa. Still, one sometimes may hear a parent complain: 'I've already told my son a hundred times to be home by midnight, but he just never listens!' [implying 'a failure to obey the parent'] So I was wondering whether the French also use écouter in this particular sense.
That's an American (and possibly British) idiom that's not used by the French in the same way.
How do you know when to put 'les' (the indirect subject) before the verb as opposed to after it? Are there rules that tell when this is okay, and when not?
"les" is a direct object pronoun, meaning that the verb "écouter" is directly transitive: its object does not need a preposition.
whenever a direct or indirect object (with preposition à) is a pronoun, it is placed in front of the verb:
- je les écoute
- je leur parle (verb = parler à)