I just had about half of my completed French tree drop out of 'gold'
I just had about half of my completed French tree drop out of gold status, I wonder why?
I know all about spaced repetition, and I'm used to seeing 5-6 skills drop out of gold every day, but to have several dozen of them drop out of gold all at once, some of them ones that I had strengthened within the past few hours, is puzzling, and may be discouraging to a lot of people.
Whew! I thought I was alone. Just happened to me too. This can't be normal for so many people to complain at the same time about so many skills downgraded all at once.
So...seven hours after I posted that, I am back to all gold. Musta been a Duo glitch
Me too! Between my three languages, I had around 130 lessons that needed practice. Now I just have a handful, about the number I would have expected yesterday. I'm glad it seems to be fixed! Maybe the staff were afraid they'd have a mutiny among the users.
It is very discouraging! Although I suppose it will force me to practice even harder to get caught up again. I've submitted a bug report on this issue. I've never done so before, and it says not to expect a reply, so I have no idea if anything will come of it, but I guess we'll see!
Yes, and I was very sad to see the little flash cards go away in place of the slower more awkward ones...unless they are back.
I just had the same thing happen in all three of my languages. One minute I was working through the few lessons that needed reinforcement, then the next minute more than half of the tree was no longer gold. Also, the ones I have practiced since then will not turn gold.
One that I practiced just now turned gold, so I'm not sure now if there a problem in that respect or not.
I absolutely hate it when that happens. This happens to me every day and it's like I'll never have a full gold tree :(
I've just had the same thing, reviewed 2 topics this morning to get back to all gold, just checked it now and about half my tree needs reviewing. Some of the topics have the strength bar down what you would normally expect if you'd ignored it for 2-3 days. Very odd and frustrating!
Same here tho, earlier I was on and got around two hundred XP then I got on and half of it was not gold.
That's nothing!!!! I've got 20 to 30 of them to re-strengthen and most of them are really hard!!!!!!!!
All three of my languages have similarly gone from pure gold (and usually needing 0-5 skills refreshed per day) to being over half now requiring review, and many of them dropping significantly in "strength". I also submitted a bug report to hopefully increase the attention to this.
Concrete numbers, where all finished skills were gold yesterday: French: 56 of 77 now need review Spanish: 45 of 61 now need review German: 22 of 35 now need review
That's not a daily pace I can sustain...
Same happened to me. I just finished getting my italian tree all gold this morning, I check it again a few hours later and now suddenly 30/40 lessons have been degraded, most of which have degraded to 50-75%.
Even my French tree, which is only 5 lessons deep, has been seriously degraded. I've been doing rep work on it every day, so I don't understand how so much of it could justifiably degraded this much this quickly. Is this a bug or something?
Same here. My French tree has been gold for ages and typically I need to strengthen 1 or 2 skills a day but quite often I don't need to strengthen any. Yesterday it was completely gold and no skills needed strengthening. Today 58 skills suddenly need strengthening so this seems like a screw-up. Looks like similar has happened on my Spanish and German trees :-(
Let's "regroup" all reports about the recent (less than 24 hours apparently) bug with strengthening, in this discussion which is [seems to be] the oldest one about this subject in the Troubleshooting forum (which is the place meant for such discussion).
Don't hesitate to upvote and comment that discussion so that it appears on top of the "Popular" tab.
To quote another user, hughcparker: Duolingo uses a spaced repetition approach. It shows you things you've learned at times that will most help them stick in your head. If you keep the tree gold, you'll find it works really well.
Duolingo takes account of how long it takes you to answer the question, and it takes account of whether or not you "peek" - whether or not you hold the mouse over the word to see what it means. The words that you keep getting wrong, or you keep having to "peek" at, it'll show you more often.
I had the same thing happen to me. I lost at least half of my gold, all the way back to the third skill which has been gold for many weeks (it is quite basic). I had several skills drop from levels of 4 or 5 down to 1. Today I completed one new skill, and then had the gold status disappear about 10 minutes later. Something seems quite wrong. It will take me many, many days (weeks) for me to get back to where I was.
Because they want you to just not stop and prove to them you know every bit of it! This is also probably just to keep you on and not leave it (not saying you should leave it)!
Can I ask you all which platform you use? It may not be relevant here as so many people report this sudden large drop, but I know that on the app, the strength of the words decreases much faster than it does for those using the web based version. You also strengthen more words at a time using the web version. Flash cards are even worse in my experience!
It could also have something to do with the fact that most people maintain their trees in a "just gold" state, so nearly 20% of your words will be weak at one time, it may just be that a small number of words from a large number of different skills dropped below that strengthening threshold on one day. Have you tried general strengthening lessons as they can strengthen across different skills? (This is the one on the home page, not within each skill.)
Not sure the platform makes a difference, but I'm running Firefox on Windows 10.
There are just too many reports of this (across at least a half dozen threads) for it to be a programming error, seems more like a deliberate change in the algorithm.
I don't mind going back to review, I just wish Duo would be more forthright when they make changes like ths.
The main difference is between the app and the website - I guess you're using the website which should be to your advantage - however there is now an official explanation as pointed out by Jrikahl above.
I did notice some new phrases doing an exercise in French, so maybe the lessons were all updated with new material, hence why our strengths all dropped?
That is strange. I checked my Spanish tree - I'm about half finished and it is still all gold. My fluency increased this morning from 47% to 48%. I gave you a lingot for your trouble. :)
That could explain a few things. Let me clarify: I have a degree, and am already bilingual (French/English), so thought I'd check the French course before I send students and friends to try it out. I noticed a few errors in the French course last night, and then was booted from a "test out" page.... which would have been hilarious had it not been so odd.
Anyway, if there are glitches in the website, I'll just continue refreshing my other language skills until the French is resolved. Thanks for notifying this problem, by the way. That at least explains why a native speaker cannot succesfully complete the French course ;) :D Much appreciated.
I'll just continue refreshing my other language skills until the French is resolved.
It'll only be corrected if errors are reported by the community (using the button dedicated to that) during the lessons.
By taking the course and reporting the errors you detect, you'll help the volunteers taking care of the course to detect the errors and, then, to correct them.
That said, the French course for English speakers is probably one of the courses with less errors (as it is one of the oldest ones).
Would you have some example of errors you encountered (Énoncé de l'exercice + type d'exercice(*) + réponse donnée + correction donnée par Duolingo) ?
(*) write the translation into English of the text written in French ? write the translation into French of the text written in English ? Select (in the list) the correct word ? Select ALL correct answers (among the three possibilities)? and so on...
That at least explains why a native speaker cannot succesfully complete the French course ;)
Mmm... They (We) can.
Hi Mike, Hang on in there. I got to level 16 yesterday and nearly the whole of my tree dropped out of gold, it even meant doing basics again!!
How much does the gold actually matter though? I see it dropping, though as long as I know for myself I still know the words, for me it's not a problem.
I wondered that.... the bits I've had to cover to access the areas of vocab that I know I need to cover... I won't revise those again unless I have to in order to continue access to the course.