Please Duolingo fix the lesson strength bar and the vocabulary...
Since the new web design the most useful function to me, Vocabulary, was disabled and the bar that used to show the strength of a lesson is not available as well. I thinks it has been a while since those changes took place and no major improvements have ocurred after (regarding the vocabulary feature, language incubator has been awesome). Moreover, my practices in Duolingo has been decreasing significantly and honestly I do not feel motivated as before to keep practicing in Duolingo because I cannot keep track of which words I should focus to strenght, that was a great feature of the old Duoling website. For me it does not make sense to continue advancing in my German tree without being confident with the vocabulary of previous lessons.
"Duolingo is free, is a great community, what do you complain?!!!!" Please do not get me wrong, I love Duolingo since I use it (Duolingo offers me to much for nothing, it's free!!!) and I would love to contribute to the site, but I only speak spanish (native) and english, so unfortunately I cannot do much about it. I never though about learning a new language but Duolingo made me realised how satisfying languages can be, and it also has given me the goal of learning German, and if I succeed on it, I will go then into French... something that never crossed my mind before using Duolingo.
I do not want just to critize, nonetheless since learning German became so crucial to me, I felt I needed to make a point about this matter.
I agree completely. I want to see the Vocabulary list because it helps so much with the memorization of noun genders.
I've been a member of Duolingo for only 13 days, so I never saw the vocabulary tool. Learning noun genders in German slows my progress more than anything else, so the tool sounds quite useful.
That video was sehr nützlich, as well as the rest of her channel, which I am now subscribed to and will most likely binge on tonight. Thanks so much and you definitely deserve a lingot :)
Thanks! I took Spanish and German in college, so a lot of it is review for me.
But I've been wanting to get my language skills back for a long time, and this format is the best I've seen.
Strong desire + fun program = quick success.
Try to ignore the cries of "It's a free service, so don't complain." That view is ill-informed (the staff aren't working for free) and shortsighted. We are the DL community, and critique/complaint (feedback) is part of our job, so that we can help shape DL into the best it can be. Just like "you learn more from mistakes," a similar point is, "you gain nothing from nothing but praise."
They say they're working on it, so let's hope it comes back soon. It's definitely harder to progress (and keep track of older, less used words) and stay motivated without it.
Hi everyone! I am a Duolingo team member. We are working on this. I will definitely get you a date when we have it. We have not forgotten :)
Hi Kristin! Thanks for your answer. I know and understand that programmers avoid to talk about deadlines. I have been one by myself, so I don't ask for a target date. So I'd like to ask you a more subjective question: If you were me and from a todays point of view: Would you manually extract the some 400 french vocabularies from the lessons you should have learned so far, and make your own Excel list or whatever, or would you wait for the finished new vocabulary feature? ;-)
Okay, thanks for this advice! I will do so and i'm looking forward for the new version!
I'm so glad you said this. I want to comment every time someone says "it's free; don't complain". People should stop kidding themselves. Duolingo is a business, not a freaking charity, despite however admirable their offerings may be. They've received a lot of investment money to do this and their business model is ostensibly to make money off of our translations. So we are helping them (and their investors!) arguably as much as they are helping us -- possibly more if their business model works and they truly are able to make lots of money on this. So I don't feel bad about making polite requests for improvements.
DL keeps saying they are going to bring it back, but I can't for the life of me figure out why they took it away in the first place. They keep saying it wasn't being used and it needed to be tweaked, but I feel like they should have been able to do that without taking it down. In any case, That was my favorite feature; I used it even more than the Immersion tab. I hope that when they DO decide to bring it back, they made substantial changes to it... It has been gone far too long.
I think that you hit the nail on the head about progressing without being confident in your vocabulary. I find it harder and harder to progress through the tree as time goes on because I often forget the meanings of smaller words.
If we are honest, the vocabulary was a total mess. For each word there was an unorganized list of individual forms, tenses wildly mixed together, many of them appeared two or three times. I can understand why they took it away, it was just impossible for a site that wants to become the best language learning service. However, IMO they should just have cleaned up the mess and provided a simple list of words to review the vocabulary. This would have been possible in a short timeframe. Instead they are probably trying to invent something genius and utterly revolutionary, and this will take months or years.
You may be right, but a TON of people are talking about how they miss it. I agree that it was disorganized, but I still used it all the time. It's a resource that was taken away, a resource that I used, no matter how messy it was.
R.I.P. Vocabulary Tab, 2011-2013
I know many of us are trying very hard to be patient about this, but I do wish that we had at least a time frame. I still use Duo every day and one of the first things I check is whether or not the vocabulary feature has returned. The daily disappointments are starting to add up.
Even a rough time frame would help, I believe. If they can't make the deadline for some reason, they can just let us know beforehand and we'll be patient again for a while. Not knowing anything at all (except for the very vague "will be back soon") is starting to become really hard for me.
I was wondering if you have a link or other source for this. A quick scan of his Activity Stream going back to December reveals no such statement. Luis is somewhat notorious for (understandably) being very resistant to giving ETAs for any features, so such a statement would be seriously out of character for him. Further, such a statement is inconsistent with the Duo team's steadfast refusal to say much beyond "it's coming" on the matter.
I've asked him directly for just a ballpark estimate (e.g. Summer, Q3, 2015, the 24½th century, etc.) and he replied saying that he wouldn't provide even that.
I don't think I'll be alive in the 24th century, but I'm pretty sure my great-great-great grand kids would love the re-addition of the Vocabulary Tab!
I did you one better (or one differently rather) and searched the forums for instances of 'March'. I found quite a few (well-meaning) DL users suggest that 'probably in March..' but nothing to indicate they had a date in mind.
(of course, Luis may have made the comment, immediately deleted it, but not before HSBlazer saw it, it's possible)
Haha - I started with doing the same thing, and when I found nothing other than users throwing around March, I scanned through everything that Luis has posted to the forums or to his stream since the UI update was announced. Nothing. I decided to just let it go, though and I'll assume that this is a case of misunderstanding or misattribution, given Luis' propensity for refusing to talk about dates for feature implementations.
BRING BACK THE STRENGTH BAR!!!!! I can not keep track of my progress any more :'( (please!)
I totally agree, i have joined duolingo before few months ,but i left after few weeks, i have decided to try duolingo again before a week, but i found out that the Vocabulary list gone, that was simply awesome when i tried duolingo in the first time.
I totally agree. I'll have finished my German skill tree in two days and was really looking forward to being able to access the complete vocabulary list, but then I found out they'd taken it down. I really hope they'll put it back soon, or at least give us a time frame.
I agree completely. Since the new design and exclusion of vocabulary section, I have been lost.
I agree. My native language is Swiss German, I learn Italian from English. This makes it a bit more difficult to structure your learning process. Working your way through the tree is OK. Reading the comments, I agree, that to have an additional tool that deepens and structures your vocabulary would be desirable. Hopefully it comes back soon.
It is good to know that I am not the only one who think the same about this issue... definitely something Duolingo staff should pay attention. Thanks for the support.
although I have never used the vocabulary thing I think it would be really helpful
I'm really missing both of these features. I used to use the vocabulary page a lot, and even practiced individual words when the strength bar on those was dropping. I know that the vocabulary page will be coming back (eventually!) but I hope that the strength bars will come back too!
I'm having trouble with the odd word or phrase here and there, and it would be so much better to be able to do a few exercises targeted at that specific word again like we used to be able to do.
of course, I moved the post to the Duolingo topics, well let's just hope Duolingo Staff take care of this issue...
I agree with all of this. my portuguese has gotten way worse without the vocab to study :(
hope it comes back soon...