https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krispykracker

Duolingo Language Survey Results!

Hey everyone, I did a survey last week for which language people wanted added next to Duolingo. The results are in.

This is the first time the poll was done, so there are some things I'm going to do differently next time I do the poll, which will be sometime in May as I want Irish and Esperanto to be added first. Things I want to do different:

1) Add more languages as options, as that will decrease the number of people who selected "other".

2) I did not account for the "other" option this poll. While it did have 7% (167) of the responses, too many people did not follow the rules. Too many people were selecting languages in the incubator and it made the choices useless. I will try to make the rules more visible next time.

3) I would like to do the poll next time in Google Docs so that I do not have to manually add the results to a spreadsheet. However, Google's response form is not setup so it could be seen as a pie graph. Does anyone have any experience with it? If so, please comment. If no one does, I'll just add the results manually, but it will be substantially harder with the other option, so it might have to be removed.

4) I will not add Traditional Chinese as an option anymore until Simplified Chinese is added. Finally, the poll results. There was a whopping 2350 responses! They can be viewed here along with a pie graph

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnwlOkOScIPPdER2ZmxSZ2VRMzZOcEpadGNkSF85eGc

If you have ANY suggestions/questions, please comment as I am very open to making this poll better.

March 15, 2014

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Morgengrauen

I took the liberty and only included the top wanted languages in this chart: imgur

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krispykracker

Thank you! Would you like to do this again for the next poll? Just follow me back and I'll make sure to shoot you a message when I'm done with the next poll. Thought your DL bio was fitting haha.

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Morgengrauen

ha sure, can do :)

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sigmacharding

This is excellent! Interesting and slightly surprising. Heart warming to see Irish and Latin up so high and esperanto would be most interesting to dabble in. For any unaware, there is a fascinating story behind esperanto*(as with an language!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto and Irish of course! https://www.duolingo.com/comment/2197629

3 claps on the back for the Irish! Wish us a happy saint Patricks!

Edit: Oh and we just won the rugby match P.E - post edit- Irish is on the incubator! https://www.duolingo.com/comment/2244039

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SnapeC

Yeah you did, what a game of rugby! Happy St. Patrick's Day!!!

March 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hckoenig

So the first five are: 1. Irish 2. Esperanto 3. Norwegian 4. Swedish 5. Latin

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Athenicuber

And all those are on my language list!

March 22, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Goim

"I also think some of the people who picked Swedish was because of the country's women, but any reason is a good reason ;)"

I don't see the need for this sexist remark. There's no need for remarks like that at all, really.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krispykracker

Taken out, I apologize.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Morgengrauen

Thank you very much, Goim. I actually thought the same but stayed quiet.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ALoUSyUseRnaME

that's really cool, for the language options, this might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_languages, also for a suggestion, I think that for the survey, you should list the languages in alphabetical order if you add more options.

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krispykracker

Thank you!

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AureliaUK

I must say I'm surprised that Thai didn't come higher than it did, considering how many people go there these days.

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Morgengrauen

I personally find it really interesting and will for sure study it once a DL course gets made (had tried it with Rosetta Stone once). But in general I guess there is only marginal demand, as it is regarded as difficult (non-latin alphabet, tonal language) and yes, you can do great with English there, and it is also not a huge country like China and perhaps less iconic as Japan.

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LukeSpar

Nice job! I am new to Duo so I did not get to do the survey. I am glad you will be adding more languages next time. I would really like to see Luxembourgish get onto Duolingo, however it is very unlikely. I do hope Esperanto gets on beta soon too!

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Noe010101

You did a good job, I have voted too (for Latin;) ), thanks.

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dr_Ballard

I voted for Danish, but Latin is the language I'd most like to study that I haven't studied. In fact, if I were choosing again in middle school, I'd study Latin first.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Noe010101

In fact I'm curious for Latin as it appears in many many fields, in Law, Medicine, Biology etc, you know what I mean, don't you.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dr_Ballard

Yes, the professions and the sciences use Latin all the time. Philosophy too. The logic class I taught last fall uses Latin terms for logical fallacies, and my recent research for an article on the Reformation led me not simply to German-language sources from the sixteenth century, but also to Latin texts. I could translate some German passages with a native speaker's help, but sixteenth-century Latin was beyond me. Knowledge of Latin would be extremely helpful for both my teaching and my research. If parents have even the slightest belief that their kids will be linguists or scholars, they should teach them Latin at a young age.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Noe010101

These conversations with limited answers become more and more annoying!
To your last answer: So maybe Duolingo will mould new, present-day thinkers, when there is Latin to learn:) and the present helpless society might be remedied;)

March 18, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dr_Ballard

Learning a language certainly gives people something better to do than getting into trouble, and it enriches the lives of scholars and Romance language learners. People who know Latin frequently can ascertain the meaning of new words in new languages simply by thinking of their Latin roots. A polyglot's skill with words becomes quite impressive.

March 24, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Noe010101

I cannot unfortunatelly say anything with reference to Latin as I have no idea of it (yet). But I agree children should be taught languages at an early age, and maybe not only one language. However, this "fashion" for learning (teaching) foreign languages is quite recent, I think, I'm not sure , I might be wrong as to it, but that's just my opinion, though it may differ as to given countries. Well, I strayed from the subject a bit, so let me end here:)

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SnapeC

It was actually a fashion to learn Latin in the renaissance age.

March 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dr_Ballard

Some famous thinkers were Latin learners as children.

Machiavelli is a Renaissance-era example.

In the nineteenth century, John Stuart Mill comes to mind.

In America, it is now becoming fashionable for young students who are educated at home by their parents, to learn languages. European schools have emphasized languages earlier in a child's education than American schools. Hopefully more Americans are starting to appreciate the value of languages.

March 18, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Noe010101

And just the knowing the meaning of words, of phrases is an excellent feeling, that's why I'm kind of wild about languages, about meanings, still hungry for learning etc.:)

March 24, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Athenicuber

In my area they don't have Latin as a middle school class anymore :(

March 23, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dr_Ballard

The students are poorer without it. It often comes down to the choice of offering what are considered more practical languages, I suppose.

March 24, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DeanG6

I would like to be able to vote for more than one language (up to 3 for example) because my wish list to learn includes about a dozen languages. I'd vote for -- Latin, Creole, Arabic, Aramaic, Biblical Greek, Hebrew, and Japanese.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krispykracker

I thought about allowing voting up top many times, but then people would vote in different amounts, and the power becomes unequal.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hckoenig

The power is unequal anyway, for two reasons. Many users will not have seen the post where you announced the survey, or did not bother to vote; and millions of people couldn't vote because they don't know English and/or are not even members of Duolingo.

The result of the survey reflect the wishes of a minority of language enthusiasts who regularly read the discussions here. 2350 votes is not much in relation to 10 million users.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krispykracker

There's not much I can do on a large scale, but I'm trying to keep it as equal as possible.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Athenicuber

Three Things: What's Creole?, What's Biblical Greek?, and I have a list of 23 languages that i want to learn!

March 23, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DeanG6

(1) "What is Creole?" Creole is a language derived from a parent language, combined with other languages, and resulting in a new natural, primary language. There are many forms of Creole, the most common being Haitian Creole spoken by 12 million people. The variation I'm interested in learning is Louisiana Creole French because I live near Louisiana and I love their music (Zydeco), dance (also Zydeco), food and culture. I imagine the most practical way to learn Louisiana Creole French would be to start by learning Haitian Creole since there are so many resources devoted to teaching it. -- https://www.google.com/search?q=creole+language -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creole_language -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Creole -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French-based_creole_languages -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Creole_French -- http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/142562/creole-languages

(2) "What is Biblical Greek?" Biblical Greek is the form of Greek used approximately 2000 years ago. Knowing Biblical Greek is considered by some to be essential for serious Bible study because it is the language that parts of the Bible were written in. -- https://www.google.com/search?q=biblical+greek -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koine_Greek -- http://www.biblicalgreek.org/

(3) Good for you! :-)

March 24, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Athenicuber

1) You should specify the Creole your talking about, because someone might think you are talking about a Zimbabwean Creole and another might think you are talking about a Canadian Creole

2) Thanks for explanation, I know it as Ancient Greek.

3) Danke :-)

March 24, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DeanG6

You are correct and that's why I specified Haitian Creole as the form of Creole I plan to study. I did not realize there were so many varieties until I read about Creole on the wikipedia page.

March 25, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dr.Beez

Well, I wouldn't expect the DL staff to necessarily have the same priorities. I noticed from where this poll was posted that it's really more of a "push poll," designed to over-represent Irish. (It was in various Irish threads on Reddit, for example.) The poll should be posted in language-neutral forums only, or else the results will be biased.

That's the problem with Internet polls: Any interest group can mercilessly link the poll on sites that share that interest. Instant manipulation. They should count for nothing.

Not that I have anything against Irish; it's just that there are many other more widely spoken languages that actually have a practical component: Arabic, Persian/Farsi, and Hindi come immediately to mind as languages that have significant numbers of monolingual speakers, and those should come first. When is that last time you've met someone who speaks Irish exclusively?

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ikamjh

The point is to preserve Irish though. That is a lot of the point, so while not many people speak Irish exclusively, that is part of the point of having it...

I do also understand wanting them to add Arabic especially. It is such a beautiful language.

March 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Susande

krispykracker, regarding "Too many people were selecting languages in the incubator and it made the choices useless." I think all you can do, is specify in an accompanying text which languages are already available/will be available. I guess in that situation you will still have people selecting "other" and suggesting these languages, but those can simply be ignored. I think the "other" option is useful to find out demand for languages you didn't list.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krispykracker

It's exactly what I plan to do next poll.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ikamjh

Imagine how many more people could speak Esperanto if duolingo had a course.... Most people on duolingo are interested in language, so they would be the type of people interested in Esperanto I assume. Many Duolingo courses have millions of learners. Esperanto has 100s of K's of speakers. If you think about it if Duolingo created a course, it would be possible that in a few years the majority of Esperanto speakers could have learned Esperanto on Duolingo!! How cool would that be...

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Morgengrauen

Just because the users of Duolingo want to learn one (sometimes several) languages, it doesn't automatically follow that they are interested in Esperanto. Conlangs don't appeal to so many. As for Esperanto, it has millions of speakers ;)

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ikamjh

Yes I know that is true, but you are more likely to find someone interested in Esperanto on Duolingo then most places...

I didn't mean that people interested in learning languages all automatically want to learn Esperanto anyway. But if I had to find people who wanted to learn Esperanto, I'd check Duolingo first.

See this discussion about Esperanto for more: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/2233837

March 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Puddleglum

The spreadsheet doesn't work, by the way. Take off the =sharing. It invalidates the link.

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krispykracker

Thank you!

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Puddleglum

Kein Problem! Great survey! I'm pumped for Irish, which Luis has just confirmed. Maybe we could get Hebrew up soon as well...

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krispykracker

Where?

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Puddleglum

He did in the "My Push for Irish" thread. It won't be immediate, but it will be going up in a few weeks.

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pumacrow

Fantastic! (And not just because I chose Irish...) Thanks for your work.

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sigmacharding

Same here! Eireann abu!

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pmm123

Nice job with the poll! Dothraki did better than Klingon. Dracarys!

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SnapeC

Dothraki is a made up language!

March 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pmm123

So are Esperanto and Klingon, and they were on the survey, too. :)

March 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SnapeC

Are there speakers of Dothraki apart from Khal Drogo, who is a 'fictional' character?

March 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pmm123

The other Dothraki speak it, and so does Daenerys. As far as I know, only fictional characters speak Klingon as well.

In any case, my original comment didn't mean that I want to learn Dothraki, or that I think it should be offered on DuoLingo. I was expressing my pleasant surprise that it was chosen by more people than Klingon, since I'm a big fan of the books and the TV series.

I guess I didn't make myself very clear. Sorry! :)

March 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Morgengrauen

Not true! Klingon is spoken by people out there! There are language institutes, courses, literature (Hamlet) and songs in it ;)

March 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pmm123

Thanks for the information, Morgengrauen. I stand corrected!

March 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ikamjh

Fictional languages are where the line must be drawn...

March 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Morgengrauen

Why? Are you angry that people learn whatever they want? Do you have problems when people speak in a language to each other that has no country on Earth assigned?

March 18, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Rahzehr

The language is no more fictional than Esperanto is. Both are constructed languages for artificial purposes - one as a utility language and the other as a means of fleshing out a mythology. If we draw the line before fictional languages, that line precludes Esperanto too.

March 24, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slogger

Nice! And thanks much. The results are interesting and rather surprising.

Where will you announce the next survey? I missed this one.

Are Norwegian, Swedish, and Latin without slices on the pie chart for a reason? And a suggestion--add Ancient Greek. It would be interesting to see the demand.

Good job!

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krispykracker

Sometime in May or when Irish and Esperanto get added, they do have slices, and will do. Thanks!

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/slogger

You're welcome. Thanks for the reply. Ah, I see, that's what "△ 1/2 ▼" means. That was rather dense of me. Keep up the good work!

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/saschambaer

Well, I put Romansh. Too bad the other votes don't count. Couldn't you just somehow filter the wrong ones out? I'd also like to see Portuguese<->French courses.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krispykracker

They'll most likely be counted next time.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/saschambaer

By the way, would asking for Portuguese->French be forbidden as both languages exist already? My priorities are PT->FR, Latin, Romansh in that order, what should I put next time?

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krispykracker

Pick the one you want the most but if it's a course that's not for English speakers, specify it in the "Other" section.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/saschambaer

So PT->FR is okay as the reverse doesn't exist yet (even though both languages are there)?

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krispykracker

I'm afraid I don't understand what you're trying to say.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/saschambaer

I'm afraid I don't understand what you're trying to say.

Okay, let me elaborate:

The course I am hoping for to be created the most is French for Portuguese speakers. You specifically said that we should not put any course wishes in the 'Other' field if said language is aready in the incubator.

However, since there is no Portuguese for French speakers course either, the exact combination of languages does not exist so far, even though both languages have complete courses (in combo with English).

Am I allowed to put French for Portuguese speakers in the 'Others' field next time?

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krispykracker

Unfortunately, there were a lack of responses for languages other than English speakers. Also, most people who would want a course not for English speakers wouldn't be viewing and reading this. I've decided to make the future polls languages just for English speakers. I apologize for the inconvenience, but if you want a course for English speakers, feel free to answer it next survey.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/saschambaer

Well then, Latin it is, I guess.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krispykracker

I decided this because on the last survey where I allowed votes of non-English courses, only 7 out of 2350 were non-English, and again, most people who want a course that's not in English won't be able to read the English poll and discussion.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/d.batta

It's quite surprising that a (technically speaking) non-natural language like Esperanto got so many votes.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JackedTortoise

Wow 34.5% Irish? AlexinIreland is going to love this...

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DanielPere528188

Can't see x.x

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krispykracker

Fixed!

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DanielPere528188

tyy

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RusoTejano

Good to see Swedish and Latin in the top 5:)

Edit: In the next survey, please add Georgian and Armenian. :) Edit 2: Now that the remark about the people voting for Swedish is gone in the original post, I've removed what I said against the remark, since people are downvoting me over it.

March 15, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/arkiandruski

On the next survey, could you give people the option to choose multiple languages (with a a cap on how many can be chosen. Say 3-5)? I think that could greatly change the results and might be more representative.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krispykracker

I thought about it but I decided not to because not everyone would vote the same amount and it would make the voting power unequal.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AbraxunsIllusion

Yahoo, Swedish was one of the most!

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/wintertriangles

I'm surprised no one voted for Elvish yet, considering Dothraki is already ranking.

March 16, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SnapeC

Yeah, some people make language learning a joke!

March 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ikamjh

Duolingo should do more of its surveys on Duolingo instead of Reddit

March 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krispykracker

I put the survey on both.

March 18, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ikamjh

http://list25.com/the-25-most-influential-languages-in-the-world/2/

Interesting list of languages by influentialness...

March 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ikamjh

What about Swahili

March 17, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/krispykracker

I'll add it next poll.

March 18, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/delpt1

I would very much like to see Vietnamese for English speakers. I would think this would be a natural extension of the English for Vietnamese speakers.

August 28, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jesus849123

I voted for Basque Language :)

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