Having a lot of trouble with the alphabet
I am having a lot of trouble with learning the alphabet. It just isn't really sticking for me. I have been trying to look at alternate websites and they are informative. But I just cant seem to remember anything. I can't move forward in the course until I get this down. So, I was wonder what you guys did to learn/remember the Russian alphabet. Did you only use duolingo? Did it take very long to learn? Thank you very much!
I used Memrise to learn the alphabet, and it worked quite well with my terrible memory. Don't use the roman alphabet approximations, you won't be able to read anything outside of Duolingo, which in my opinion is a bit of a waste of time.
I think that everyone has a different way of memorizing. Personally, I like making connections...
п --- reminds me of a table, I put a PIE on the table. П says P as in PIE
л ---reminds me of a table with a broken LEG. Л says L as in LEG
Hope this helps!!!
I stuck with the Duolingo Russian, particularly the 'anglicized' pronunciations. I write down the words in actual Russian on a sheet of paper beside their 'anglicized' pronunciations. A bit messy, but it works for me.
It'll take you a weekend at the most to get it down. Then just move on with Duolingo and pronounce the words without hearing them. Then listen to the pronunciation. You'll get it in no time.
Not the best duo course I've ever seen but it works
When I was learning I sort of visualized things that helped me remember very quickly.
- ю (yoo) = I (ee) + O (oo) -> try saying EEOO EEOO EEOO very fast, it turns into YOO YOO YOO
- д (d) = the Greek letter delta
- н (n) = an N that got it's middle bar pushed down
- я (ya) = an A that got the left leg reattached to it's right leg. That leg swoops down like a y's tail
- б (b) = a b that got pushed over and now it's stuck leaning like that
- и (i, ee) = an 'I' (the one that looks like a sideways English H!) got turned to it's side and the middle bar pushed completely around.
- ж (zh) = looks like a bug and sounds like one too
- й (y) = the 'y' sound is just a very short 'i (ee)' sound. As a little kid, learning about vowels, they put those curved things on top of them to indicate that it's a short 'i'
- ш (sh) =if you remove the middle arm, it looks like U, or a strangely drawn smile. The middle arm is a finger on the mouth, saying SHHHH
- з (z) = if you know what a cursive z looks like, this is easy to remember
- р (r) = Greek letter roe
- л (l) = Greek letter lambda
- х (h) = I just remember seeing хаха on the internet, it's how Russians type haha
- Ф = Greek letter fi
- п = Greek letter pi
- г = Greek letter gamma
- с (s) = c can make this sound anyways
- е (ye) = looks like an 'e', but Russian has so many soft sounds that it's easy to remember that it has a 'y' in it
- ё (yo) = those dots are most commonly seen on an o in germanic languages (at least I think so), so it's easy to remember that it means YO
- ы (?) = this is the strangest looking to me, and it's also the strangest sounding.
- ч (ch) = In Russian, 4 is четыре (chetyre)
- ь (-) = it looks like the smallest letter, cute, meek, soft
- ъ (-) = meek like the soft sign, but it has a sharp edge, it's hard.
- в (v) = it's from Greek letter beta, but they used to say V instead of B a long time ago. Also, imagine a person with a thick Russian accent trying to say William (aka Bill). They would say Villiam.
The memorization tricks didn't really work for me so I made a cheat sheet with the alphabet, cursive and how everything's pronounced to look at anytime I forgot a letter, took lil over a week. Writing each one down helped to remember the weird magic rune shapes.
Mnemonics eg TOM KA
E = (Ye) Hear YE e, Hear YE e!
B = (V) braVo
3 = (Z) ZZZ
H = (N) нет for no.
P = (R) PR (Public relations)
C = (S) counterstrike
Y = (U) Why you (WU)
ч = (CH) 4 church goblats
X = (KH) MeXico – MeHiko.
Б = (B) looks like a B
Г = (G) R is G = RGT
д = (D) deceitful A
Ё = (YO) two dots = YO
Ж = (ZH) ZHou dynasty
П = (P) looks like an upside down pot
Ф = (F)
и = (I) Nice
й = (Y) NY (New York)
л = (L) looks like an L if it is mirrored
ц = (TS) rooTS
ш = (SH) ship
щ = (SHCH) shchi
ю = (YU) if flipped 90 degrees, looks like a person's head and shoulders "you"
я = (YA) YARRR
Learning the letters in groups from those most like in English to least like, writing the letters down longhand and saying them aloud, and transcribing full words that you see or hear should give you enough practice.
Here is what developers of the course have to say.
This game, when it is released, may be good.
Using one of the Memrise courses (and writing down what you're learning) should work.
Searching in the forums for
Russian AND Cyrillic AND alphabet AND learn will find a few hundred discussions; page down through the list and take a look at the posts that sound worthwhile.
Good luck! It is not hard at all, once you catch on, and it should only take a few days.
My advise is to just keep going on and keep practicing! I really had trouble with the В and Р a long time, because I kept pronouncing them like 'b' and 'p' instead of 'v' and 'r' when I tried to read a bit quicker. I think everyone is able to learn it :) just have some patience and don't give up! You will get there!