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https://www.duolingo.com/am.deactivating

Is anyone else sick of having to wait for Health, and having gems? Please click here

I for 1 am SICK of having lingots into gems and lessons being disabled because of Health, Many of you have already posted complaints about this so thats why I'm posting this discussion not so we have multiple discussions but so we can all put our support behind this convo and tell the duo staff that WE DONT WANT HEALTH OR GEMS! just search in the search bar using #GEMSareGERMS, thanks guys in advance for your support.

1 year ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/starboystellan

I like that (the post)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/am.deactivating

Thanks

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Bocajmil
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I haven't updated my app yet after seeing posts after posts of health and gems. I hope they'll find a better way to improve duolingo not making learning discouraging.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/_Help

Its a A/B test. So you should be fine if you update, if you use your account

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/-DarkSwan-
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I know, right

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/-DarkSwan-
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Tired of Gems and Health, I mean.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BrianPlatt

Agreed 100%. This is a bad change for the App. I'd love to see it changed back.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/lablankahundo

I also do not like GEMS. I travel for work and end up in multiple time zones. I've "lost" a day because of not being able to access the app while on the plane or simply because of crossing the international data line. Now having to spend 400 GEMS to preserve my 400+ day streak would wreck me in short order. This seems like a blatant money grab. If it keeps up I'll go find another free service. Then there won't be any add revenue from me.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jazztonight

Just to let you know, I lost a 950 day streak a couple of months ago. I was very unhappy about it, but an amazing thing then happened: I survived. Now I have a 60 day streak going. I also have 5000 Lingots (or gems, or something), and that doesn't mean much either. I still have the same learning/knowledge gained during the 1000 days I've been on Duolingo. Just saying, the streak is not as important as what you learn from the app.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PaulKlenk

All nonsense on the part of Luis and the health philosophy to curtail binge learning!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Jazztonight

"Binge learning" -- I love it!

I'm sure they'll keep tweaking Duolingo with such nonsense. That said, they've done a good job presenting a free app that many people have used to create a foreign language foundation.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PaulKlenk

Your first statement regarding the "tweaking" of Duolingo with such nonsense is SO true! Unfortunately, the CEO, Luis, is ONLY concerned with the metrics, the numbers if you will. Consequently, he pays no attention to the users. If you look at ratings on Apple ios, you will note that they have dropped substantially. Why?

They've dropped for the same reason this forum topic was created. People, and educated people, and people in education find the entire health concept to be counterproductive and totally inconsistent with sound learning methodology.

I, for one, am tired of debating the issue with people who lack the education and the experience. No, I don't know everything, but I do know that trial and error is integral to learning. And when a student is punished for trying, then motivation is diminished. Luis should know this, but NUMBERS, not people, are his world.

Consequently, and probably to some peoples' delight, I am done with the forums particularly since administrators and Luis DO NOT listen; they do not see the downward trend in the ratings directly attributable to the implementation of the health nonsense.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/anomalousjack

Agreed, depleting health is counterproductive to the learning process, but while health depletes, it keeps users on the platform trying to finish their trees. And with more new users entering the app all the time, the user figures continue to rise.

These figures are very attractive to someone hoping to buy out, or at least honey-dip inot this platform (ie. Pearsons, Google etc) so it is in Duo's interest to keep this figure as high as possible until such time as... kerching!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/chordata96
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Different people value different things. How you reacted to the same situation is completely irrelevant here.

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/themoonchild

Is there a conversion rate from Lingots to Gems? Like 1 US Dollar is equal to 6.81 Chinese Yuan? or 64.46 Indian Rupees?

FTR-I had to look those up. I don't have conversion rates in my head.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BrianPlatt

If I recall correctly, I had 220 Lingots and it converted to 900 Gems. At the same time, a streak freeze (10 Lingots) the morning after the conversion cost me 600 Gems.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dawnofclarity

I use web and iOS app - there is an obvious disconnect somewhere as Duo gets very confused between the two now. For reference, you can still log in on web and use those lingots - after their so called conversion - to purchase a streak protect for 10 lingots.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PaulKlenk

Another issue of unforeseen consequence where the user suffers. Who do you tell? The administrators are useless and Luis is a man of number, metrics.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PaulKlenk

And here is a great example of implementing ridiculous changes without examining ALL the consequences.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/MingNu
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yes!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Chantal919894
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hi, totally not digging the health stuff... like the old way better. health thing too gimmicky... I tend to agree... WE DONT WANT HEALTH OR GEMS! Or at least I don't... It's an awesome app, why keep fiddling with it with all this phoofy gimmicks. Thank you for all you do

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/PaulKlenk

We're all sick of it and the entire concept is counterproductive to learning. It punishes a user for trial and error learning. By the way, trial and error are integral to the psychology of learning. Oh, but Luis is blinded by the metrics and has forgotten about the human element. Furthermore, and I'm doing it right now, Luis and company are not listening to the users. A strong majority rejects the entire health notion!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BridzhitPuk

Yeah! It is darn annoying! Great post mate!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/TheGeneral42100

Agreed

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KenBookmye

I don't know if all of the new iPhone aƧcounts get the gem/ health version. You might want to try opening a couple other accounts and only practicing on one without health you can use your current account just enough to meet your daily goal (I'd set the goal to one )

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/dawnofclarity

Agreed - this health idea is awful - I got ONE question wrong on the iPad and it killed the flow with a nag bar implying I was a rubbish learner. Closed the lesson and continued on my android phone - smaller and more fiddly, yet infinity more usable.

Anyone else noticed the huge disparity in shop cost of things between lingots and gems? For example - streak protect is 10 lingots, yet 400 gems - ouch.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/themoonchild

Is there a conversion rate? Like 1 US Dollar is equal to 6.81 Chinese Yuan? or 64.46 Indian Rupees?

FTR-I had to look those up. I don't have conversion rates in my head.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Woof.
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<h1>GEMSareGerms! I hate gems. I hate the health feature. They're disgusting, and Duolingo could really do without them.</h1>
1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/chordata96
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Sure! I DON'T WANT HEALTH OR GEMS.

11 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/CatherineR932979
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I agree. I bought the "Plus" version of Duolingo. It's not all that much better. I am only learning one language and am refreshing on 3 others. So, having one amount of health is stupid for 4 languages. Some of the stuff I read say that the reason they limit it is to prevent binge learning... That's funny. The most effective language training institutes have language learning 8 hours a day or more! If I want to eat breakfast and study, eat lunch and study, and watch tv later and practice, I shouldn't be prevented by the health Nazi. Especially, when frequently some "mistakes" I make is because I don't agree with the translation, getting dinged for proper punctuation, etc. I want to add on 3 more languages, but can't see how I'd do it with the health issue. I could have sworn at one time I saw an extortion "payment" for unlimited health, but I can't find it now. That's what I'd pay more for, is unlimited health.

4 months ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Voylin
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Nobody wants to be healthy nowaday's that's why people smoke and that's why fast food chains like McDonalds still exists

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/loveirishdance

Yes that is true

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Voylin
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Sorry that many people downvote this. I thought I would change the subject for once because people keep complaining about the health system on duolingo but never complain about the health issues in real life which are more important

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KenBookmye

But your post is not language related it's spam by Duo's definition

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Voylin
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and all your posts with just saying thanks, i know that, I like that. Those posts are language related then? I consider them more as spam because they don't have any meaning or message at all

1 year ago