https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DavidH843784

One year, now what?

I started Duolingo 365 days ago and have not missed a day yet. I have finished the tree and hit level 25 with about 10 days to spare. I "know" 2657 words and am 63% "fluent". I took two timed tests a few days apart. I got a 0.94 on the first one and about 4.5 on the second. (??)I must say with the full year and level 25 behind me I am not quite so motivated to push on. A trip to Montreal and possibly an exchange student from France may help. If Duolingo needs to make some money, I'm in for something extra. (My dream addition: 4-5 lesson packets that support progressively more advanced stories. Once you know the full tree, mastering a packet should allow you to read the associated story. Lessons could just be translating snippets of the story with a little sorting by type of grammar. People who do translations could do most of the work for lingots.)

April 29, 2017

16 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sialia2

Congratulations! You may find doing a reverse tree (your native language from French) to be productive and enjoyable.

April 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sugarmac

congrats!! Check this discussion out. https://www.duolingo.com/comment/22401679

April 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Midnightwards666

How does it show 2657 words for you? I completed my French tree yesterday, and I only "know" 1130 words.

April 29, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jettaska

The explanation might be that David H spent a whole year doing the tree, repeated all the skills many times and probably encountered all the words of the French course. His French level is 25 which means that he has over 30000 xp-points in French and has spent a lot of time studying. If you did your tree quickly, you did not need to strengthen your skills as much, and consequently you did not run to as many words as he did. Another explanation might be that if you had previous knowledge of French and took a replacement test or tested out some skills, you did not learn the words of those skills. I "know" 2584 words, and as I keep strengthening my weakening skills the number goes slowly up. Congratulations to you both for finishing the tree!

April 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Midnightwards666

Thank you very much! I had no previous knowledge of French... I started more or less from scratch, and have a learnt a lot from this site. I am interested in how words get added to that list though... so you're saying it gets added it when you click the "Strengthen skills" button, rather than the first time you learn in lessons? I remember noticing that words I knew were not in that list.

April 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DenisBouch7

Yes, keep doing the "Strengthen skills" and you will add new words and sentences.

May 2, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DeeAce

Wow, how quickly did you finish this tree? You are only level 13 lol

April 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Midnightwards666

24 days. Yes, it appears it is quite a low level to finish at, although I certainly don't remember every word. I will be redoing a lot of lessons.

April 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LanguageButcher

24 days is impressive. Even though you don't remember every word, you remember a lot to be able to move forward. You also remember and grasp a lot of grammar concepts then. My mind definitely can't process the whole tree in 24 days.

April 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Midnightwards666

Thanks. I have seen a huge improvement - at first I didn't even know the most basic words such as "je suis", and now when I see common words I can often read without translators, and same with writing. I still have no understanding of spoken French though.

The way we remember words in our native language is by constantly hearing/seeing them... so I think you just have to do the same in your target language, and they'll stick.

April 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DavidH843784

Jettaska is mostly right. I raced through the tree and then tried to keep everything at full strength just by doing the general "strengthen skills" for a month or two that was not enough so i also did reviews of the ones that were slipping. I probably picked up 1000 words after finishing the tree. Lately i only pick up a few each month as I don't think they add words very often. I don't think they give me credit for words in the iPhone bot conversations. There was a time when i was really frustrated that a lot of my words showed 1 bar strength but i could not not get quizzed on them. Sometimes i would review individual lessons just to get a weak word. Now i don't care so much.

April 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Midnightwards666

I ignore the gold bars - my strength is 1/5 on the most basic lesson, and that most definitely is not correct... I think I am a bit past the first basics. I will be reviewing individual lessons a lot too, mostly the ones where I have forgotten a lot of words. I think I know my strengths/weaknesses a bit better than the gold bars.

April 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DenisBouch7

If you keep going, you will find new sentences and add new words. I am at level 24 and added another word today.

May 2, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LanguageButcher

DavidH843784, a couple of advice for you.

The next site you should work on everyday is this: https://french.kwiziq.com/revision/grammar It's an amazing site focusing on grammar. It's almost as fun as Duo.

Use this site to talk to real french speakers https://www.italki.com/i/CdcAaC

When you take your first lesson, italki will give you an extra $10. Here is a tip. Italki allows you to have 3 trial lessons, each could cost as little as $1, and a full hour lesson costs a little as $6. So with $10, you can have 3 trial lessons and 1 full-hour lesson. If you can afford 1 lesson a day, you would be in a very good shape in 3 months, and the cost is $7-$10 x 30 days x 3 months = $630-$900. To me this is better than a trip to Montreal.

April 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DavidH843784

But in Montreal i also get to see the Canadian Grand Prix

April 30, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jettaska

I have liked Learn french by Podcast a lot. The podcasts are free and you can buy study notes. A lot of the grammar is explained in the podcasts, and they have different levels of lessons.

April 30, 2017
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