Health gems app vs lingots version
If you are trapped in the version with health and gems and don't like it go to the app store and vote it down. Put in comments you like duo but hate the health gem version.
I haven't had experience with gems but right when my sister got onto Duo sh deleted it because health was so awful.
I too have been frustrated by the iOS app experiment. Trying to start a campaign for us iOS Duolingo users to ask for what we want, instead of having glitchy gems and health. Not sure Luis is reading the iTunes app reviews but I noticed the drop in reviews and started a thread to remind the Duolingo team to rethink their direction. Way to go! Let's get this fixed.
This "health thing" is really bad. Ive used duolingo for years usually studying while I'm in a country. Recently I went to France for the first time, so I fired up the app for the first time to start learning French and immediately got locked out. Figuring this was just the new way of things I gave up and deleted the app never to use it again. Weeks later I noticed the website was still the old way so I started using that again for Spanish on my computer.
TL:DR; I instantly gave up and missed studying a new language for a month because of getting blocked by "health" as a new learner.
You literally could have hit the 'practice' button and immediately earned health back. Or watched an ad.
Duo is running an AB test some phone users get a health bar every wrong answer lowers their health when it reaches zero there are three possible options. 1) wait about 8 hours for it to reset 2) limit their activity to review of previously learned material 3) buy gems with real money to renew their health. Apparently duo tried a similar product in the past and it was not as popular as the current version but I suspect they want the revenue that would come with it
Its a test, down voting it won't do anything.
Just wait for it to finish, it hopefully will soon.
Downvoting the app is the fastest way to end the AB test with the outcome we desire.
and also hurting the app its self just for a test to end.
That's like a protest, that hurts the company the most, which then hurts the people who use the product, because Duo can't get any revenue/whatever.
Negative feedback is one potential result of an AB test. I've spoken with people who dropped AB because of Health
There already has been negative feedback.
Luis himself said that they were taking care of it.
I suggest that everyone wait if the owner himself is saying that they are taking care of it.
Edit: Since for some reason I can't reply. It's the first comment of the discussion
Luis agreed AB testing the new website while doing AB testing of the new website was difficult he didn't say duo would not be adapting health universally. The day it shows up on my app is my last day on duo and yes I will make that clear in feedback
Where did he say that? I have not seen anything from him like that. All he would have to say was they were ending the test
AB tests are simply a way to choose between two outcomes in this case Duo runs two different versions of their website and compares user reaction to them. For example they recently artificially raised the fluency score of a group of users to see if those users spent more time on duo. As it turned out they spent less and what caused the disaster was when they ended the test without notice people who were in the test group saw their fluency drop 20 points overnight. Needles to say they were upset. An AB test isn't inherently bad. Right now Duo is running a test where some app users get a health bar and when it expires from making mistakes they have to either quit and wait, just review old content, or pay for more "health" in the form of gems.
There is one nice feature of the gem version. If you have not visited a topic for some time, it gives you an opportunity to take a test that is longer and a bit more comprehensive than a regular review of the topic. If you pas, that topic will not be repeated for 30 days. However, Duo charges 200 gems to take the test. That was fine when they had somehow converted some of my lingots to gems, but now I have used up all those gems on tests and Duo wants me to buy more at $4.99 for 1000 gems. Without the gems Duo does not allow me to take any more tests.
I have always passed the tests. I am not sure what score you need to pass or what happens if you do not pass.
That is NOT a nice feature. If the data says you should refresh sooner then giving you the option to pay not to refresh hurts you in the long run. It's the same deal as allowing you to buy health. If it's important to take breaks then letting you pay to skip them hurts you. Granted you are cooperating to hurt yourself but they are dangling the carrot.
The nice feature is the tests themselves, not that you have to pay for them or restricting when you take the tests. The tests have only been available to me a few times, but they seemed to be a better and more comprehensive way to review the material than doing one practice session to turn a topic on the tree from colored back to gold.
But if you only need to test once for 30 days why doesn't strengthen last for 30 days. Have they convinced you to pay for something that may not be in your best interest?
I like the health aspect. It makes it more exciting. And I don't care about how the virtual currency is called. From the old system I do like however that long streaks are rewarded somehow.
you can literally click "practice" at any time and earn health back. You can also watch ads to get health back. Developing for iOS requires an entire additional team working at duolingo, and the ads are a vital source of revenue that allows them to continue making all of this free and available to everyone. The gems help this. But the health? The health isn't even ABOUT revenue, that's about getting you to realize you don't know something as well as you think you do and take a mental break from learning new stuff to go back and review old stuff, so you can earn your 'health' back.