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I think I know why I make no progress. New website bug?

Because my strength bars in multiple skills are always decreasing rapidly I decided once I had strengthened everything back to gold that I would go into the words section and selectively strengthen the skills in which the weakest words are found. Then I go back into the words list to check they are now fully strengthened. What I have noticed is that often, having just strengthened words, they disappear completely from my words list. This also occurs when I simply strengthen a skill that was not up to full strength. About 10-15 skills degold each day and I almost always spend the time to get them back to gold, plus seeking any individual words I made mistakes on to strengthen the skill they are in, but often find the word doesn't even appear in the word list, as well as the words I have just practiced and got right often not appearing. I have been doing this for 2-3 weeks now without progress. I am unable to decrease the number of skills that degold, nor the number of words that are still at one bar strength, despite specifically working on 2 or three of these a day, which I only do once all skills are in the gold.

1 year ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/vesna2691
vesna2691
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Same problem here. 26 skills degold, I can't keep up. Many words that I practice almost daily show that they are last strenghtened 4 months ago.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anneduol1ngo

Same here as far as words practiced is concerned, but I had thought maybe it didn't count as strengthened if the word was practiced a the skill it wasn't introduced in. That is why I am going to the words in order to find the correct skill and practicing it there.

The other concerning feature is the 'disappearing' words from the word list once I have practiced.

It isn't a matter of refreshing the page. I keep refreshing pages just about after everything I do, so I am sure it's not that.

I have now reported the matter as a bug. Maybe you would like to as well, so they know it's a more general problem?

Edit: I just went into see what needs strengthening and found Basics 2 needs doing again. I keep doing basics 1 and 2 over and over as they keep degolding without mistakes. So this makes no sense at all.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Dutchesse722
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In the Words list, there's a column called "Last Practiced." Next to it is a tiny arrow, and if you click on it so that it points upward, it'll make your Words list a lot longer so you should be able to see the words you've just practiced as well as those that haven't been practiced in quite a while. You can also get more information on all the words in your list, whether they are verbs, nouns, adjectives, etc. You'll see they are all underlined with a dotted line. Click on an individual word, and more information about it will pop up on the right side your screen. You'll also be able to see the conjugations of verbs this way.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anneduol1ngo

I don't find it does that. All it does is order the words according to when they were last practiced. If the arrow points up the ones practiced longer ago (supposedly) are at the top, and when the arrow is down the ones just practiced are at the top.

One can also put the words in alphabetical order if one wants to look for a word just practiced if it hasn't appeared among the words just practiced, and this is how I have found words I have just practiced have disappeared completely from my word list.

Also, even once at full strength they degrade in sometimes an hour or two. For instance 'les' which it says I practiced 1 hour ago (and have been practicing repeatedly and I don't think I ever get it wrong except on a 'type what you hear' exercise when sometimes I hear 'des' instead of 'les' but that is not very often is now only at 2 bar strength. AND over the last couple or days I have strengthened basics 1 and 2 over and over as they have degolded.

Thanks for the tip about the extra information. I had already discovered this for myself and it's how I know which skill I need to strengthen to strengthen the word too. Clicking on there brings me to the skill so I can strengthen it, and this is when I have strengthened it the word itself disappears from the word list, plus several other words I have just practiced.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/staplesnout
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I think the algorithm is not perfect, so instead of encouraging people to learn and to review, it often simply disappoints them. So you should concentrate on the language and not on the gold. If you feel overall progress, it does not matter if the tree is golden or not. Review words and lessons on which you feel insecure, not all which degold. They will degold even if you will do the tree of your native language :)

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anneduol1ngo

I feel I have misplaced my trust in the algorithm telling me when I need to refresh words and that I am wasting my time now. You will see from my streak and XP how diligent I have been. However the situation has changed and no longer seems to work properly. I may stop using DL as a result of this.... possibly I will try the learn English from French and see if that give me more translation into French as by and large translating into English is not bad for me, at least on DL in the lessons.

But I now seem to be more in English than in French and I want to be able to go from English to French and have more French. This feels like another change I don't like. No speaking exercises anymore.

I am sad, but it may be goodbye DL!

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/Anneduol1ngo

Just did another new lessons. Checked in word list. Only 2 new words recorded but I got the whole lesson correct without mistakes and there were about 6 or 8 new words, though I correctly guessed them or already knew them. To me this just confirms again that there is a problem and we cannot trust DL to tell us when to strengthen.

1 year ago