Anyone else have to repeat lessons more and more times before passing as they go down the tree?
I could usually the the first lessons on the first or second try, but I'm having to do sometimes 4 or 5 tries on later lessons. Is this normal? Or am I not studying enough or not getting it. Its starting to get a bit frustrating.
Yes. I have redone some of the lessons many more than 5 times. Duolingo courses are set so you can do them at your own pace. If you are someone who remembers immediately after seeing something once, then you never have to review. If you are someone like me.... well I review lessons long after I've completed them and moved down the tree. I suggest purchasing a Timed Practice from the Lingot Store (on the home tab) and using it every day to help keep everything fresh in your mind as you progress down the tree. :) Good luck!
This is normal. The stuff you have to learn further down the tree is harder, and some of the lessons (at least in French) are less well made / has been through less testing as fewer people have completed them. Also, for some quite difficult skills there are only 1--2 lessons, which is very little practice to actually understand what you are doing.
If you find yourself not understanding the concepts in these later lessons just from the lesson itself, I would advise to look up the grammar online before even starting the lesson. At least with tenses, and probably with cases in German, this is a lifesaver.
it's totally normal besides doing it over and over helps you to remember and learn. so don't get so frustrated.
Yes, this is normal. Some lessons down the tree are not the greatest, and do require multiple attempts. Sometimes many more than only 4 or 5.
Yes. In a way I would expect that - the grammar becomes more complex and there's a lot more earlier material to be forgotten.
On the other hand, what is causing me most problems are all the little words like "ya" which have several meanings, any or all of which could be correct in the context of the sentence but which seem to be randomly accepted or rejected by the system. I've also found that some of the later recordings are not entirely clear, which makes distinguishing gender or indirect pronouns more pot luck than anything.
Tell me about it. I'm having trouble with er/ihr, ist/isst (which makes for some funny confusing sentences), and some plural stuff like tochter and its plural
I would have thought that since the creation of new courses is no longer work for DL that some of the earliest ones could now be reviewed in light of feedback and work done, perhaps by a new team of volunteers, to sort out the issues that still seem to be being reported.
In the end, are the courses not as good as they should be towards the end because people give up without completing them, or do people give up because the later units aren't as well made as they should be? In other words, is lack of persistence the problem, or disillusionment at the quality of the material?
I completed the Spanish tree a month ago or so, and I didn't really see so many problems with the later material. I already knew the entire Spanish grammar, though, so for me it was more a matter of getting myself to do it right and not make dumb mistakes. I guess I'd say that in the average lesson I'd lose one heart due to a Duolingo error, which I always made a point of reporting. I think there might have been one single lesson where the "correct" answer was simply bad English, and Duo did not accept any valid answer that I knew of, so I ended up memorizing the wrong answer for it. (And it's possible that one has been fixed--I got a blizzard of "we have fixed X" messages from them for a while.)
The biggest deficiency in the later lessons is that the dialog sections are so sparse. The earlier lessons are rich with discussions and good answers to grammar points. The later ones are often entirely empty. (Or they only have a comment from me.) :-)
@AureliaUK, Duolingo's last public mention of retention rate that I could find was around 20%, which isn't anything to hike one's eyebrows over. It's actually a normal rate. (see video in link below.)
Source for retention rate. See "Retention rate" https://www.duolingo.com/comment/1426103 (though, new FAQ is here: http://duolingo.wikia.com/wiki/Duolingo_Wiki#Getting_Help I don't think the retention rate piece has been moved over yet.)
Me, too. But I think it's because English is not my mother tongue. So I made really a lot of mistakes both on Spanish and English.
Especially for the verb! All kinds of verbs!
i'm doing french and im exactly the same, im also writing some key words in front of me on a piece of paper i find writing things helps me remember things more vividly :)
How much review do you do? I do two strengthening exercises before attempting a new lesson, and if I fail either of those two, I skip trying a new lesson for the day and just keep working on strengthening until I've successfully done three. (That is, I always complete three lessons a day--either two strengthenings and one new, or else three strengthenings.) That keeps me from going too fast and it guarantees that I keep getting exposed to the earlier material. And I average about five new lessons per week at this point.
I try to run through the strengthening exercise each day for a couple of the skills chosen at random, though I'm not religious about it.
I've been quite impressed by the way the sentences adapt to incorporate material you've learned since you originally learned that skill. They seem to be particularly good at throwing in a new tense into a topic which was previously covered only in the present tense.
I'm not sure if this is the same thing as what you are talking about but I'll be in a lesson and the EXACT same exercise is repeated 3 or 4 times during the lesson (translate this phrase from Spanish to English for example). If the lesson only has about 10 excises sometimes the same exercises takes up a third of the lesson because it is repeated so much and I feel like I'm not being exposed to as many examples. It's also not a matter of me answering it incorrectly because oftentimes I get the exercise correct but it is still repeated. Sometimes they are repeated back to back. I understand if you get an exercise wrong that it may be repeated again later in the session until you get it right but not if you originally got the exercise right and not literally 3-5 times.
I ALSO KEEP REPEATING THE SAME LESSON AND NOT GETTING TO THE NEXT LEVEL:PLEASE HELP
I'm fairly close to finishing Esperanto, but I have to redo four old lessons and some I've had tro redo about 25 times!
I am stuck. I am doing the same lessons over and over and Duolingo won't let me move on event hough I get everything right.
HarryAHunn, when reporting a problem, always try to be as specific as possible so people can help you more quickly. Which platform are you using when you experience the problem? Android, ios, windows, and Desktop are all different.
I'll walk you through some common troubleshooting strategies that have helped others. If you are experiencing a problem linked to one, I hope this will resolve it. If not, please return and provide more specific feedback. :)
Have you tried logging out and logging back in again? Have you tried temporarily switching to another Duolingo platform to try and overcome being stuck if you are experiencing a glitch?
Another common thing is that people are completing all of the lessons in their still, but are not going back to the main tree/course. Instead, they click "Strengthen skill" or "practice". This lets you practice the material inside of the skill you just completed. But, to move forward to a new skill, you need to exit the one you are in and go to your main tree. Since I don't know what platform you're using, I'm not sure what button it will show you to get back to the main course. So, try clicking http://www.duolingo.com in case that might help.
Are you part of the new Crown levels test group? If so, once you reach your first crown, you can move to the next skill. You are not required to reach 5 crowns before moving to the next skill.
I am having the exact same problem. I hadn't used Duolingo for awhile, got about halfway through the Spanish tree. Heard they had done some sort of upgrade so I went back in and I have done the same exact exercise over and over again in a couple of the little modules (or (whatever you call the individual little topics that have the questions in them). Also, it seems as though they have added a whole lot more exercises to many of the modules I'd already completed. And what's worse, I don't seem to be able to "Test out" of anything anymore. Because I'm a little bit more advanced now than where I left off in Duolingo, I liked that I could test out of a topic and move on. Is that no longer possible?