https://www.duolingo.com/Kansokusha

How many words does the German tree have in total?

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I'm half-way the German course, and I'm wondering how many words in total there are in this tree. It currently shows 929 so far. Does anybody know how many the total count is?

May 14, 2017

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https://www.duolingo.com/patfinegan
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2,387 is what my "Words" list says, but there may be more. I've had a completely gilded tree for nearly a year, but I still come across questions I haven't seen before.

May 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/gatiquo
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Perhaps new material is being added. I recently got an update with new sections that wiped out my tree. Only answer is to keep reviewing.

May 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/patfinegan
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Happened to me, too, but the new tree is considerably better, much more expansive. The German DL team clearly takes continuous improvement seriously. I've been very impressed by their thoroughness, much more so than in one of my other DL courses.

May 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/AdamKean
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2605 is on mine. Who knows what the full amount is. 3000, maybe?

Just want to add that I've noticed duolingo counting conjugations and the like as separate words: so habe and haben would not fall under the same word, but would be counted as two separate words. I must say that I feel this inflates the word count, because with every new verb you could therefore get up to almost 15 new words just from conjugation! (i.e. sein -> bin, bist, ist, seid, sind, war, warst, wart, waren, wäre, wärest, wären)

The same would therefore also apply to adjectives (groß -> groß, große, großer, großes, großen, großem), and nouns (Herr -> Herr, Herrn, Herren).

Although, in duolingo's defence, word counting has always been a hotly debated topic; I just wanted to point out the number duolingo shows may not represent exactly what you think it does.

May 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Kansokusha
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Yup, you got a point. This makes me wonder what criteria was used for counting 20.000 words as the average for a native English speaker by some organizations.

May 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/AdamKean
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Exactly. There was undoubtedly some guestimation involved, as there are even more issues than conjugations etc. which bulk up word counts; such as homonyms and the like which condense word counts.

For example, would you count lead (as in the metal) and lead (as in to lead -> leader) as two separate words? Personally, I would because one is a noun and the other is a verb; and therefore rather easy to distinguish, as the verb should be correctly listed in the infinitive, which would be to lead.

Then you have read (as in to read -> He reads every night before bed) and read (as in (to have) read -> He read every night before he graduated). This is what I was talking about with regards to duolingo and (as you may have guessed) I would not count these as two separate words because they fall under the same base verb to read.

And then what about match (as in, when one is in need of fire and hath not a lighter) and match (as in, Murray vs. Djokovic). Now, personally, I haven't got a clue! They are both nouns, but clearly represent to entirely separate concepts (and btw don't forget if you've got a match on tinder). I'm leaning towards counting them as separate words, but I could easily be persuaded to simply think of them as the same word with multiple meanings.

With regards to the criteria used to determine the native English speaker's word count, I really don't know what they do when it comes to homonyms etc., but I have a feeling that all forms of a verb simply fall under one word; otherwise I would feel that 20,000 would be on the lower end of the spectrum. Though, in fairness, there aren't nearly as many conjugative variants in English as there are in other languages... such as German.

May 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/KenBookmye

2478 and I don't have the idiom and flirt skills

May 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/JimMellon

I can't find the link right now, but another person on here has created a list of 3000 flash cards in TinyCards - all taken from DL. It seems to be the consensus that the German vocab on here maxes out at about that point.

May 15, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/rare910748

good luck

May 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/ally.x
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Mine says 2499 words right now.

May 14, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/NedimAzapa

I have only 2266 :( everything is gold and I am pretty sure I have last version (it was recently updated and I have "Rel. Pron." skill). Why everyone has different word count?

May 15, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Kansokusha
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Because this count only refers to the words you have been shown and are likely to remember, minus the words that have no strength for the opposite reasons. The more you practice regardless of the skills being gold, the more the count goes up. "dead words" also influence the total count..

May 15, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/NedimAzapa

Apparently you are right, after a few sessions of "Strengthening skills", my word count has risen to 2267, while I noticed no new words in practice. OK, it's only +1 but I get how thee system works.

May 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/YellowSubm3

That looks helpful - how do you pull up that Skill Strength summary? Ta!

May 15, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Kansokusha
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It's a Userscript. click here to go to the author's blog.

Under the "installing" section are the instructions.

May 15, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/jenn442

Thanks for the script! I'm surprised at how many of my words are considered 'dead', given my tree to the point that I've gotten is fully gold. It's weird because it seems like I get some groups often while others I haven't seen in a really long time.

May 17, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/FreekVerkerk
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I have: 2486 Words with the "I want to learn german" course and 1815 at the "Ich will Englisch lernen". Probably because english is much easier :) Dutch does not have a word-count. (yet).

May 16, 2017
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