What about Albanian?
I've read posts on Duolingo about all sort of languages rooted by partisans of every culture. So I thought to ask :"What do you think about Albanian?" Albanian is a language isolate of the IE family spoken in the Balkans and South of Italy by more than 7.6 million albanians spread in a lot of countries (Albania, Kosovo, FYROM, Greece, Montenegro, Serbia, Italy and minorities also exist in Turkey, Croatia, Bulgaria, Bosnia, etc). It is scattered throughout the World by emigrant colonies in the US(especially NY, NJ, and MI), Canada, Australia, Romania, Egypt and Ukraine. It holds very old traits of the IE language family and some linguists say it might be the first language to have branched from the tree(not leaving greek behind). I have already applied for 'English for Albanian speakers' course, but if the community here is interested, because they want to learn a living relict, want to talk to loved ones, or just because of your albanian heritage, I would gladly apply. I was in fact inspired by the Irish guy and the love he showed of his language and thought to do the same. This post has served its purpose even if only makes you dig about the Albanian language on the 'net.
I am from Montenegro but I would REALLY want to learn Albanian, as I want to try to learn all languages of my fellow Balkan neighbors :)
I think that learning each others languages and cultures would actually show us that we aren't that different like what we think :)
So keep it up! I am looking forward to it :)
If you've already applied for English for Albanian then you'll automatically be in consideration for Albanian for English as well: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/1670141. Also, a lot of the course content is the same for both so by making one you'd be helping make the other anyway: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/1377701.
Thanks for applying. ;-)
Albanian is as you say a very interesting language, not the least from the indo-european view. It also has a lot of latin-italian loanwords in it, so it will be familiar for those who know any romance-germanic language, even thou its a unique language of the (probably) illyrian stock of indo-european languages. I would learn it!
Most of the words come directly/share a direct common ancestor with Latin (more than 40% of words). As far as I have studied languages, Greek and German natives will have the easiest in terms of grammar, but for French speakers it will be easier in terms of vocabulary and prononciation.
Hello! I'm albanian too and I know it's been a year from the last comments, but did anyone created the course for Albanian? :)
Thank you so much for creating the memrise course and sharing it here! I have been looking for something to get me started but hadn’t had much luck.
I am learning Albanian as a second language and would like to help develop an Albanian for English speakers course.
I'd love to learn Albanian! I've ordered some books to get started but it would be amazing if Duolingo made a course. In Sweden, we only have one university course for learning Albanian.
I have learned a bit Swedish but by knowing English and German it was not that hard to learn Swedish. Tack
I have a met a lot of great Albanian Americans. Lots of luck with the course and making the language more accessible via Duolingo.
Oh, Albanian is such a cool language! It's so interesting that their language maybe dates all the way back to the Illyrians. Im from Germany, and would be vere interested in an Albanian Course here in Duolingo.
Përshëndetje, une jam Yakov, my family is from Kosova but I unfortunately was cut off from all but the basics of my language due to my father refusing to teach it to me, stubbornly stating that we live in Australia and the language is thus irrelevant, if you guys get this off the ground I'd be damn appreciative, Faleminderit regardless!
That's extremely unfortunate mate. My parents are Albanian, I'm born in Australia but my parents always speak Albanian at home, which is why I can easily speak with my family back home. I feel very bad that you haven't gotten to learn it :(
I actually have a friend who speaks albanian as a second language, it would be cool to learn it! Good luck!
I would love lo learn Albanian ;) I discovered it through my boyfriend, and found it is a beautiful language with many words with a lot of meaning ^^ My favourite word/name to call my boyfriend would be "shpirt" ;)
I just wish I could learn some grammar or more, to make him happy, and maybe impress his parents Cx
I'm in the same situation! My boyfriend is also Albanian, so I would love to speak his native language since I'm privileged enough for him to speak to me only in mine.
I've studied a bit of Albanian and would love to be able to use Duolingo to brush up on what I've learnt and go farther with the language.
Considering everything, I believe Duolingo should give the albanian language a chance. Hopefully we get to see this beautiful language here too :-)
I speak Albanian and English fluently, and would be interested in helping design a course. It would be great to have this beautiful language represented on Duolingo.
I would love to learn the language for my gf but there's not many places it is offered I would consider having a plus membership if they realeased Albanian on this app the Spanish helped me get through college Spanish and it has been my best method of learning language I can't see a better way to learn Albanian so I can surprise her
Hello, I am also Albanian and have contacted 8 translators/agencies and I have received some positive responses from them, so hopefully Albanian will be in the works. I also plan to contact more translators as I am really hoping this becomes the first, organized way to learn Albanian. Ti flet Anglisht shume mire por kam nje pyete. Cfare dialekt flet, Gheg apo Tosk? Jam lindur ne Amerik por di Shqip por jo tamam fare. Jam i lumtur qe ke applikuar edhe jane edhe 2 shqiptare te tjere ne Duolingo, albania98 dhe FKrasniqi.
Gjithe te mirat!
Perveçse Gegerishte Verilindore (ashtu si Kosova), qe eshte gjuha ime e nenes, di te flas dhe shume dialekte te tjera te Shqiperise mjaftueshem mire. Por ç'eshte me e rendesishmja kam mesuar ne shkolle per 12 vite rresht standartin e Shqipes dhe e di shkelqyeshem, me çdo rregull e çdo perjashtim te saj. Shqipja jote eshte shume e mire, pa problem. Per çdo gje, me vjen mire qe jemi disa, sepse nuk i lejme vend njeri-tjetrit per gabime. Mendoj gjithashtu te perfshijme edhe leksione ku do tregojme fjale dialektore dhe zhargon, qe ne Shqip jane mese te nevojshme.
Përshëndetje, une jam Daniel edhe erdha me te pyt diçka. Ti, unë, edhe KrispyKracker jena Shqipëtarë edhe jena ti fol për me kriju kursin per Duolingo. Unë shof një problem, që bela nuk flasim të njajtin dialekt edhe ne qoftë se krijojmë kursin na bëhët problem kur një thot fjala për "window" është "dritate" edhe unë që flas dialektin Gheg thot fjala është "pixhere". Gjithashtu unë mendoj që mund ta krijojmë, edhe në qoftë se vonon. Unë me të vertet nuk flas Shqipen kështu, po më duhet me fol kështu se po ta bëjmë kursin do ta krijojmë në dialektin Tosk, po? Apo mundemi ta krijojmë të perzim, për shembëll da fjalë Tosk edhe da fjalë Gheg? Qa thu ti?
N'fakt jam shum i lekundëm mbi kët tem. Puna asht se Gegnisht flet 3/4 e shqiptarisë edhe noshta do ishte ma e përshtatshme me e msu kët dialekt sesa Standartin e Shqipes që asht bazu kryesisht mbi Toskrishte. Megjithata për momentin menoj se ma mir do kish qen me u msu njerzve Standartin pasi asht ma e kollajshme deri diku. Sigurisht duke leju edhe format dialektore si përgjigje t'sakta dhe duke shtu edhe leksione me gjanat ma t'rëndsishme të Gegnishtes si psh. format e foljeve: me punu, ka pas punu, kish pas punu, etj. Prap se prap s'menoj se asht noj problem i madh pasi njiher do bohet kursi me msu Anglisht nga Shqipja pastaj ai me msu Shqip nga Anglishtja. Edhe te ai i pari do detyrohena me e bo me Shqipe Standarte pasi shumica e fmive dhe nji pjes e mir e t'rriturve din me shkru e knu veç n'Standart.
Nqs ke mundesi, shkruaj shqip tosk sepse nuk e kuptoj shume mire Gheg. Tjeter, une mendoj fuqimisht qe kur do e bejme kursin Albanian for English speakers, duhet mesuar Tosku edhe jo Gheg. E kuptoj qe e flet Kosova Gheg edhe verriu i Shqipris, por duhet mesuar Standartin e Shqipes, sic per Arabisht, Duolingo po meson MSA (Modern Standard Arabic) edhe jo Arabishtja e Egjiptit. Kur filani perdon Duolingo, shpreson te kuptoj lajmet, te lexoj libra, etc. Tosku e permbush kete kusht. Numri e njerzit qe flasin Gheg po ulet cdo dite, edhe patjeter duhet mesuar Tosk. Tani, kur shqiptaret do te mesojne Anglisht, sigurisht qe do pranojme Gheg dhe Tosk. Por, duolingo nuk e ka sistemi qe te mesosh 2 dialekte. Duolingo nuk te meson Anglishtja e Amerikes EDHE te Britania e madhe, por vetem te amerikes. Njerez do te mesojne shqip qe te flasin ne Shqiperi, jo ne Maqedoni ku shumica flasin Maqedonisht. E fundit, po dite Gheg, ti e di qe seshte standarta edhe do kuptosh Tosk. Kurse une qe flas vetem Tosk, eshte SHUME e veshtire ta kuptoj Gheg-un. Shpresoj qe do jeni dakord me mua, edhe mezi po pres qe ta fillojme kursin :)
E vertete, arsyeja kryesore qe dua te zgjedh Toskerishten eshte gramatika me e lehte. Ndersa per gegerishten qe ka shume pak ndryshme nga Toskerishtja mund te shtojme disa mesime, pasi te themi te drejten numri i Gegeve nuk po ulet por perkundrazi po rritet sipas statistikave. Ne gjuhen standarte Shqipe kane filluar disa ndryshime ne perputhje me gegerishten por qe kane hyre dhe ne toskerisht si psh. gjarperinj-gjarperij. Megjithate te dy dialektet jane 100% te kuptueshem me njeri tjetrin. Ne Tirane ku jetoj une perplasen te gjitha dialektet e Shqiperise dhe te gjithe e kuptojne njeri tjetrin. Mund te them qe ndryshmet e pakta ndermjet dialekteve lidhen kryesisht me kthimin e n-se ne r dhe anasjelltas, ne shkurtimin e pjesores punuar ne punu/punue, ne kthimin e ë-ve ne a/o ose ne heqjen e tyre si psh. të djemve - t'djemve, e ne disa forma te foljes qe gegerishtja i ka shtese ose i perdor me shume sec ndoshta i perdor toskerishtja. Nuk mendoj se do jete fare problem. Megjithate do deshiroja vetem nje ndryshim qe nuk e ka toskerishtja. Reduktimin e te gjitha ë-ve aty ku mundemi. Ne kete menyre edhe perfaqesojme te dyja dialektet sot per sot(pasi te dyja po shkojne drejt thjeshtimit te ë-se ne te shkruaren jozyrtare, ama Toskerishtja ka edhe me shume ë ne te folur se standarti) por edhe u thjeshton pune te huajve qe po e mesojne gjuhen. Vitet e fundit kam verejtur qe edhe perplasja e dy dialekteve te folura ka krijuar si te thuash nje gjuhe te perbashket natyrale me elemente nga te dyja qe eshte me e thjeshte. Do ishte mire qe Akademia e Shkencave ta rregullonte nje standart bazuar mbi kte gjuhe natyrale qe po formohet por mesa duket do duhet shume pune deri sa te arrijme deri aty. Besoj se edhe ne nepermjet Duo-s do arrijme te bejme dicka te mire pasi gjithe kohes do te flas me persona, gjuhetare e dijetare te ndryshem te gjuhes Shqipe. Gjithe te mirat! :)
Unë besoj që dialektët nuk janë problem sepse mundëmi me i shkrujt fjalët ne te dy dialektët. Me ju kallxu drejtë, une di vetëm Ghegnisht edhe për qatë arsye smuj me ju dhanë shembull prej te dy dialektët mirëpo mdoket që ideja është boll e letë me kuptu.
Po shof tashti që kjo është pak e vjetër mirëpo në qoftë se jeni këtupari hala, tregoni çka mendoni për këtë.
Albanian would be so good to learn. I would definitely learn it if duo made a course.
I learned a little Albanian a few years ago. I'd love a chance to dive back in.
Albanian language shares a group of words with Latin because we have lived since ancient times here in region. And as long as you speak Spanish it might be very easy to learn Albanian.
What kind of similarities does Spanish have with Albanian? Honestly I don't think they're anything alike.
Albanian has its own branch in the Indo-European Language Tree because there is no other language like it. Being able to speak Spanish will not make it easy to learn Albanian as there is no relation to the two languages. However, I do agree that we did borrow a few words from the Romance languages over time. I had this realization when I learned German in school and kept comparing it to Albanian.
I always thought our language was very different compared to most others, can you give some examples of loaned Latin words? I can think of some but not many.
Standard Albanian IS based on the Tosk dialect, but the Gheg dialect doesn't have clear divisions between words/words may sound like they're muddled together. I may be biased because I am from Tirana(although I've lived in Macedonia for a very long time and they speak in a Gheg dialect there), but I think the standard form would be the best. That's the dialect you learn in school and all official papers are written in that form. There's a reason that there is a standard version of this language (Just like German or Italian which both have many different dialects, but still have the standard one as well). It'd be kinda weird to be teaching a particular dialect rather than the standard form of the language.
Yes for Albanian! I lived in Kosova for two years and loved learning the language. I am not fluent but would like to be.
I have a friend who is teaching me albanian but it's difficult because we both work and only meet up once a week. I recommend listening to the online albanian radio stations and there are some good YouTube videos for albanian but I hope duolingo make a course ❤️
I too am looking to start learning Albanian from English. I think there’s a huge gap for it and a big demand also. It’s great to see some of you guys willing to help create a course. Have any of you guys applied to be contributors to build the Albanian course so it can get up and running?
Ahh perfect. How long ago was that? It seems it’s taking a very long time to set up the course seeing as this post was 4 years ago.
I have not seen the link of incubator. There is a need to have many backers of the language pair. I have selected Albanian for English people due to fact there are many people who speak English requiring the course for Albanian language.
There’s a poll going on about which languages to add to duolingo. It seems that some have already been added to incubation phase. I’m sure it would make a difference if we all voted for Albanian.
Yeah? I've lived in FYROM, Skopje for 9 years, went to an Albanian school, bought Albanian books, etc. There's a pretty good damn good chance that you'll encounter an Albanian if you meet someone in FYROM.
Yes, really. Albania is right next to Macedonia. State lines are somewhat arbitrary/political, so it's no surprise to see Albanians in Macedonia. Also, there is plenty of controversy in Macedonia where schools in Albanian areas are forcing children to learn Macedonian instead of their parents' native Albanian.
I think saleomkd was pointing out the use of "FYROM" instead of "Macedonia".
First the name is Republic of Macedonia; second, the state lines are as every other state line between 2 normal countries and everything else is misinformation; and third, official language in the country is Macedonian, yet every single albanian has the opportunity to learn on his native language plus many other rights that are far above the average of what other european countries offer to their minorities. So someone is sharing fake news here, but whats even more important involves politics somewhere where absolutely doesnt belong. Shame.
I'm an Albanian and I already speak broken Albanian however, are their any books sites or apps I could use to improve, aside from Memrise and Speaky.
Check out Discovering Albanian 1 Textbook Linda Mëniku and Héctor Campos. There is a textbook, workbook, and a CD. It is very helpful (depending on your level of Albanian). My Albanian is decent, but it definitely needs some work.
Sapo krijova dhe une nje discussion te tille, ijoni! :) Me pelqen shume qe eshte kerkuar nje kurs i tille perpara se ta beja une. Pergezime per anglishten tende dhe per menyren se si e ke nisur shkrimin per te treguar anen interesante te gjuhes shqipe. Po lexoja komente dhe po mbeshtes mendimin qe duhet te bazohet Shqipja Tosk ne duolingo. Vazhdim te mbare.
Pershendetje. Jam i gatshem te punoj per sa i perket kesaj iniciative. Desha te te informoja qe nuk mund te krijoni nje kurs Shqip i cili perdor dialektin Geg apo Tosk. Kursi duhet te krijohet ne gjuhen letrare Shqipe dhe mundesisht edhe personi qe shqipton fjalet duhet te jete i rrjedhshem ne Shqipe te paster. Persona te cilet nuk e kane mesuar gjuhen Shqipe ne shkolle sipas rregullave te sakta gramatikore nuk mund te marrin pjese ne kete projekt. Normalisht ky eshte thjeshte mendimi im, por besoj se cdo gjuhetar, shkrimtar, perkthyes apo cfare do lloj njohesi i gjuhes tone do te binte dakort e mua.
Edhe unë bi në dakort me ty që duhët të kemi njerëz qe janë të shkollumë në gjuhën letrare për me mujt me I mësu tjerët gjuhën të pastër edhe me e kriju kursin. Siashtu mendoj që edhe ato që nuk kanë shkollë të gjuhës mujn me I ndihmu njerëzit që kan pyetje në komentët për shembull.
Une jam I lindur në Australi mirëpo di me fol edhe me e shkrujt gjuhën deri diku, edhe kisha mujt me ndihmu për asi sende, pyetje edhe tjera, mirëpo nuk kisha mujt me ndihmu me e shkrujt kursin.
Hi all! I’m an American married to an Albanian from Kosovo, would love to learn the language so I can speak to my In-laws, preferably Gheg but Tosk works too! I hope Duolingo can get this in the works ASAP!
Would be really helpful as it would make it more recognised in a wider community.
Is anyone familiar with how the process of creating a new language course in Duo works. I applied for Albanian for English speakers, then I saw this discussion in which people are saying they've applied over four years ago. Did you guys get contacted back from the Duo team, or you're still waiting.
Dang, so there's no hope. If you look at the incubator most of the courses have about 4-5 contributors. I mean, how hard could it be to gather 4-5 people to create the Albanian course. It could be very beneficial to all the Albanians who are born in a foreign country. Sadly there are more Albanians outside the country than inside. In the other hand, there will be English for Albania speaker, which will be an amazing resource for all the Albanians who seek to learn English.
Maybe there needs to be a more specific thread for people who would actually contribute to the course. I want to learn Albanian so I can't help. But my Albanian finacé (who doesn't currently use DuoLingo) is interested. So maybe it's a matter of getting 4-5 people to apply AT THE SAME TIME to get their attention? Because if people apply once every few months they might not think all of the creators would be active.
I’ve written on this thread a bunch of times but have never seen someone from Duolingo answer or give any sort of feedback. I’ve been requesting Albanian for 2 years now prob never gonna happen
I was surfing around Duolingo Discussion and I found sort of an answer to why they haven't added or even considered adding Albanian.
This mod is referring to a similar post as this, but about Finnish. That post has about 1,000 comments and over 400 up votes which compared to this post is huge. Yet they haven't added Finnish.
A job I used to work at a lot of my coworkers are Albanian and I really want to learn the language and practice with them. I'm still friends with a lot of my coworkers from that job. I've been waiting awhile searching the incubator hoping to see it in development.
Learning Albanian language sounds great! I hope in the future it will be available.