https://www.duolingo.com/KenBookmye

A/B test blocking my downvote

Duo is apparently trying out blocking my ability to downvote in yet another exciting A/B test. So I am doing one too. I'm going to stop trying to answer posts and upvoting. So if you want to reach me try my Facebook link unless it's been eliminated as well

1 year ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/garpike
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It is instructive to consider that all societies generally fall into two groups: those in which people can express both agreement and disagreement with popular ideas, and those in which only agreement is permitted. It would be a pity if the Duolingo forums became the latter kind of society; if it does, why not do away with replies to posts altogether and just have a mandatory 'like' button that we either press or lose all our health...

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/BelgianStr
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I am instructed by considering that.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/ruferales

Situation is never black and white as you put it. When someone makes a nice post and receives -5 for no reason, that's not disagreement, it's just hate. And when that post disappears, you just took away the freedom of speech for someone. Have fun living in a world where that is allowed and excuse me if I won't be joining you.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/garpike
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It certainly isn't black and white; I was merely articulating the general principle:
Giving a large number of people a small amount of power is generally the best way to prevent a small number of people with a larger amount of power from misusing it. Occasionally trolls will downvote posts into invisibility with multiple accounts—they will abuse their rights; stripping everyone else of the same rights is not a solution to the problem. The people who abuse downvoting are always the minority and the majority mostly mitigates this when it is empowered to do so.
Don't worry about the good posts that are downvoted by trolls—if we are all denied downvotes they will be impossible to find anyway in a forum dominated by spam and irrelevancy. As it stands, people who have decent posts downvoted to oblivion can always repost them; 99% of the time the sensible majority prevails and upvotes good posts in greater numbers than a disruptive minority can downvote them in.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/El2theK
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At the moment I also cannot downvote any posts. However, in my user data there is no mention of any test that suggests that an A/B test is occurring. So let's see if it's a glitch or not. It wouldn't be the first time.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FieryCat
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As far as I know, it's just a limit on the number of votes per day, which was introduced recently.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KenBookmye

Nope I tried today after not voting all day and it's still up only

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3
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I could downvote until just now. Any idea when the "day" rolls over?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FieryCat
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The downvoting function will get unblocking in 24 hours after the start blocking. This is a very strange blocking, I still do not understand it to the last.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KenBookmye

Nope over 24 hours still up only

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/FieryCat
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Please note that if you keep trying to vote when you reach your daily limit, it will add to the next day's number, so don't attempt it several times a day or it may take a little longer before you can vote again.

https://www.duolingo.com/comment/22708664

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jimnicholson
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I doubt this is an A/B test.

If if it were, I would expect the downvote button to be hidden, not for it to have no effect.

Speculation: Perhaps the split is caused by whether 'you' are on the new or old site. I am on the old site and can no longer downvote. Does this agree with everyone else's observations? Is it old site uses cannot downvote and new site uses can?


Edit: to make things simple...
How to know if you are a user of the old web site or the new web site...
If your notification pop-up appears top-right, then you are an old site user.
If your notification pop-up appears in the center, then you are a new site user.
Do not decide based on whether you have an activity tab in the header, this would muddy the waters further.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KenBookmye

The bell with the counter is on the far right the actual window opens on the far left

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jimnicholson
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I was wrong - they have said it is a test:

https://www.duolingo.com/comment/22708664

Note: It seems that there are separate limits for upvoting and downvoting.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KenBookmye

So I read the post. Which has now apparently been removed I wonder if it was downvoted off or pulled by Duo. In either case, I'd like to note that I voted on every post I read since it's the easiest way to mark where I ended the time before. That means my upvoting was more than three times the number of downvoting I did. It's Duo's homefield they get to make the house rules but I can still pick up my marbles and go home. Without a doubt they anticipated losing users, the same way they did on removing immersion and activity. It's​ a business decision. Did anyone else get an offer for a weekend streak freeze for $0 .99?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3
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I still see that post at the top of the discussion forum, and it opens fine.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KenBookmye

Strange I just tried again I still get an error.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jimnicholson
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Like piguy3, I can still open it. Although it did appear blank for me twice.

I might give the forums a break if things get worse ... perhaps returning whenever the replacement turns up. Though it seems they might just be updating what they have.

No idea about weekend streak freeze - that might be an Android thing. I have never seen one (I'm iOS).

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jimnicholson
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For info:

Just to let you know - I got my downvote ability back today, so you may have as well.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KenBookmye

Thanks for the update. But, I've gotten pretty used to doing a few extra lessons in the time I was spending reading discussion. I unsubscribed to all of the form areas and I don't think I'll be back other than an occasional visit to see if they replaced activity

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/jimnicholson
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Arrgh! You've blown my theory out of the water.

There have been general problems the last few days - I had thought they might have disabled the downvoting endpoint (for the old site users) by mistake, while fixing things.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/KenBookmye

Neither heavy traffic or an OS system glitch would be reasonable explanations of being able to toggle the up arrow on and off at will. Nope I'm sure it is a test. It continues as of this morning

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/piguy3
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Judging from all the threads about how we shouldn't have downvoting, this could be the (2nd) most popular change to Duolingo this week! I join in the opinions expressed that this is madness.

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/pentaan2
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@KenBookmye
It is possibly an A/B test or a glitch, because:

  • in this account I can still both upvote and downvote
  • in my other account I can neither upvote nor downvote since yesterday

    .... I'm going to stop trying to answer posts and upvoting.......

Please, don't stop, because your posts are valuable.
Just try to make another account, that is able to upvote and downvote.

1 year ago
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