https://www.duolingo.com/Onomatophile

"mio" vs "il mio"

Hello everyone

I have gone through the whole course of Italian and still have not figured out when to use "mio" and when "il mio", as in e.g. "mio fratello" and "il mio fratello". I get so many mistakes and it is a major cause of frustration. Some advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Onomatophile

May 18, 2017

10 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/CivisRomanus

The topic is covered quite extensively in this old discussion:

https://www.duolingo.com/comment/18288880

May 18, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Onomatophile

Thank you. This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks to everyone who answered.

May 18, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/CivisRomanus

You are welcome.

May 18, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/MaiaPatata

I learned in Italian language course that you don't use articles when you are talking about someone who is close to you, like members of your family. That's all I know :-)

May 18, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/veyseldoganme

You do not say the articles for the closest relatives. For instance, you do say "la mia fidanzata" when you are engaged, but when you marry the girl you would say "mia moglie". It becomes close so throw the article away! :)

May 18, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/a507
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Hi, I hope it can be help you. it is in Italian but the examples are very easy. http://www.englishgratis.com/1/risorse/grammatica/gram-aggettiviepronomipossessivi.htm

May 18, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Onomatophile

Great and helpful link, thank. you. What I am trying to figure out is this sentence: "I miei genitori crescono mia sorella". Why can I not say la mia sorella?

May 18, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/Lynnich

You keep the article when it's plural e.g; Mia sorella (my sister ) le mie sorelle (my sisters) or mio fratello (my brother ) i miei frattelli (my brothers) Close family members (brother, sister, son, daughter, cousin, grandparent (grandmother or grandfather) , aunt, uncle, don't use the article for singular but keep it for plurals. My parents (i miei genitori ) keep the article because they are plural. I am not sure about "my parent" as I have always said "my mother" or "my father". Hope this helps! Look at Tomtxxu videos on youtube, he explains it really well.

May 18, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/a507
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It is not so simple. I can tell: My brother has my book (mio fratello ha il mio libro) My best friend marry my sister (il mio migliore amico sposa mia sorella). My new bike (la mia nuova moto). The possessive pronoun must have the article, instead possessive adjecttive no.

May 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/MABBY

The simple answer is this:

  • If it is a single family member (one brother, one sister, one grandmother, one husband, one uncle, etc.) then you don't include the article.

  • If there are more than one members of any family unit (parents, grandparents, aunt and uncle, two sisters, four nieces, etc.) then you always include the article.

Boyfriends and girlfriends usually have the article included.

Tuo fratello (your brother); i tuoi fratelli (your brothers)
Sua sorella (his or her sister); le sue sorelle (his or her sisters)
Mio padre e mia madre (my mother and my father); i miei genitori (my parents)
La mia sposa futura (my future bride); il mio fidanzato (my boyfriend, or my fiance)

The tricky part comes when you introduce an adjective between the article and the family member.
My fat uncle becomes, "Il mio grasso zio" or "Mio zio grasso".

May 18, 2017
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