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Problems in the Japanese from English course

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I tested out the new course and there are many problems, I think.

Now I do not have much time, but I explain some of them. As I rushed through the tree, there could - and will - be much more.

  • The particle は (ha) should be pronounced like "wa" not "ha". It is a problem, because sometimes normal words are also devided, where は has to be pronunced as "ha", like in はしります ("hashirimasu"). A solution could be to provide both variants and the learner can divide them by ear.
  • The particle へ should be pronunced as "e", not "he". Same problem and same possible solution as for the particle は.
  • ときどき and some other japanese words seem to not have an audio file? As often I tapped on them, there was no audio.
  • Kanji compounds: The two Kanji for 一人are diveded into two boxes, and if a learner chooses them, he hears the japanese spellings "ichi" and "jin", when he chooses it, so that he may think, that the Japanese word for "alone" is "ichi-jin", but together these Kanji should be pronounced as "hitori" - I am afraid, this could be with other kanji compounds the same. These "kanji words" shouldn´t be devided.
  • You've been ask to translate "eight days" in an English sentence. In Japanese, this is written with two kanji (八日), one for "eight" (八) and one for "day" (日), but this kanji compound is divided into two boxes in the exercise. If you tap on each of them, you will be provided by on audio of the Japanese words for them: "hachi" and "hi", so the student may think, "eight days" will be "hachi-hi" in Japanese, which is wrong, because the correct spelling for this compound is ようか "Youka". A solution may be either, to not divide such compounds or to provide these kanji with different spellings, so that the student can choose the correct one.
  • In the sentence 椅子はその上です you can hear the following: " boushi ha sono ge desu". I am not sure, if this pronunciation is also possible here, but normally it should be pronounced as "ue" in this sentense.
  • In a sentense "something between something" the word or kanji for "between" is 間. Like most other kanji it has japanese (aida) and sino-japanese (ma) readings and in this construct you have to use the japanese reading "something no aida something", and not "ma", as in the Duolingo exercise.
5/19/2017, 2:49:54 PM

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You probably did it, but click the "other sort of error" button if you come across such cases. In other courses, often the only option for bad audio is to just not have the audio, but I would suppose you're right that there might be other levers to pull with Japanese.

If they get around to starting a Japanese forum, it might be useful to repost this there, as I don't know if any Japanese contributors will happen by it here in Troubleshooting.

5/20/2017, 7:27:56 AM

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The course has definitely problems with audio, spelling of Japanese letters and kanji (Japanese and sino-japanese) and pronunciations.

This is mainly in the questions, wher the students have to translate an English sentence into Japanese by choosing boxes.

Many Japanese letters do not have audio and when, it is often wrong in the given context.

I added a few more examples to my initial post.

5/21/2017, 10:49:19 AM

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Do you learn with the iOS app or with the website?

5/19/2017, 4:24:53 PM

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With the newest update of the iOS app.

5/19/2017, 7:49:18 PM

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There is no Japanese on the website yet, only on iOS and Android apps.

6/19/2017, 3:04:47 PM
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