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Beide or beiden

Hello, I have checked out older posts on duolingo and also googled but it is still not clear where to use each. Please explain the usage simply...

In one place in duolingo, it says "hallo, ihr beiden!", at another "ihr beide bitte!", then "beide mögen kaffee", and then "die bieden frauen sind toll". What's the difference? Or are they interchangeable?


May 21, 2017



Hallo, ihr beide = Hallo, ihr beiden;

1) beide is used to indicate both, as subject of the sentence, or as adjective without any preceding adjectives/pronouns with declined determiners

2) beiden is used after an adjetive or a pronoun with determiners, e.g. (your example): Die beiden Frauen sind toll; Ich sehe die beiden Hunde an; Ich folge den beiden Kindern

I guess that it isn't possible to put an adjective between die and beiden. Remember, in the explanation for beiden they all obey the declension table.


Beide is an adjective which takes endings like any other, but one thing to keep in mind is that it is always plural (you can't have both of just one thing!), so it always uses plural endings, which, remember, is always -en after any article, definite or indefinite. See this link for the handy charts: http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/german/grammar/adjectivesendingsrev2.shtml

Nominativ: Beide Männer sind groß. Die beiden Männer sind groß.

Akkusativ: Er macht beide Bilder. Er macht die beiden Bilder.

Dativ: Er gibt beiden Frauen ein Bild. Er gibt die beiden Frauen ein Bild.

Genitiv: Die Augen beider Frauen verdrehen. Die Augen der beider Frauen verdrehen.


Dativ: Er gibt beiden Frauen ein Bild. Er gibt die beiden Frauen ein Bild.

Correction: Er gibt den beiden Frauen ein Bild.


Also: die Augen der beiden Frauen.

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