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[WIU] Weekly Incubator Update: 2017, Week 22.

Note: Data retrieved on 2017/06/04 at 16:48 (UTC).

I. Phase 1 Courses

I.A. Transfers

  • Exits (Courses reaching BETA Phase): None.
  • Entries (Courses entering the Incubator): None.

I.B. Completion Summary

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(A) This week's value automatically generated from Duolingo's statistics.
(S) This week's value self-reported by the team of volunteers working on the course.

II. Latest News from Course Volunteers (All Phases)

Course "English from Tamil" (Phase 1)

By rohanshankar on 2017/06/02 (full text here)

தகவல் (Update)

பல மாதங்களாக இந்தப் பயிற்சியறையிலிருந்து தகவலே இல்லாத ஒரு சூழ்நிலை இருந்து வந்துள்ளது. தற்போதைக்க...

Course "Swahili from English" (Phase 2)

By BrandenRyan on 2017/06/01 (full text here)

Tangazo Maalum la Tatu

<h1>Special Update Number Three</h1>

We have been a bit quiet in terms of updates and edits, but go...

Course "Japanese from English" (Phase 1)

By hideki on 2017/05/31 (full text here)

Japanese for Android Rollout Starting Today!

We started rolling out the latest version of Android app slowly. By the middle of next week, all ...

Course "Esperanto from Portuguese" (Phase 1)

By librulino on 2017/05/28 (full text here)

Um MILHÃO de aprendizes de esperanto no Duolingo!

Os cursos para falantes de inglês e espanhol, juntos, somam um milhão de aprendizes! Abaixo, trad...

Course "Esperanto from Spanish" (Phase 2)

By Luko. on 2017/05/28 (full text here)

¡Un MILLÓN de estudiantes de esperanto en Duolingo!

Ha sido un camino emocionante y estamos felices de tenerlos en nuestro viaje. El equipo de espera...

Course "Esperanto from English" (Phase 3)

By amuzulo on 2017/05/28 (full text here)

One MILLION Esperanto learners on Duolingo!

It's been a wild ride and we've been happy to have you on our journey. We launched Duolingo's fir...

Course "Czech from English" (Phase 1)

By nueby on 2017/05/26 (full text here)

Docking procedure initiated

95.5%.

A few days ago I alerted Duolingo staff that I expect to hit the *Lock tree and submit ...

Course "Korean from English" (Phase 1)

By Soedori on 2017/05/26 (full text here)

Clarification post about writing applications

I know most applicants don't read the updates. They should.

  • FYI: 2099 is a placeholder. Of ...

III. Previous Weekly Incubator Updates

See this index of WIUs.

June 4, 2017

33 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Trang.

Wow thanks for still devoting your time to update us on the new courses

June 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sie00

There's not much at all going on. For all the tweeks and a/b testing and endeavouring, It would appear that duolingo management regard course stagnation as, not even an issue. Clearly It is. There is a chance to spread courses that are rarely found elsewhere and make a huge impact, but at the snail's pace that is, there isn't much innovation. It's easy to criticise but the point is that there is potential for duolingo which is being missed as nothing happens. I hope that they can find a way to stimulate the scaling of the website/ app.

June 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/nueby

It seems that course stagnation is not even an issue. Clearly It is.

So is it not even an issue, or clearly it is?

ETA: The unmarked after-the-fact substantial editing of posts must be catching on in this thread. It makes for a meaningless conversation. I am out.

June 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sie00

I'll clarify. It appears to me that duolingo is not interested in that glaring issue and is focusing their attention elsewhere and have no answer, or maybe motivation to establish or manage teams that show a slightly decent output. Some courses are moving at an average of 1% every few months, others not.

June 5, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Medard

I can't wait to start learning Czech, thanks for all the hard work.

June 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/nueby

Thanks! Some waiting is still needed. Even if I punch the button on 7/7/17, we may need to allow time for the post-processing tasks by Duo that they could not do despite the advance notification.

June 5, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Medard

Japanese has been released a few weeks ago (it slowed them down considerably) they will release Czech soon. Not bad IMHO.

June 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DonFiore

I don't think they are that involved in other courses apart from Japanese, so one shouldn't slow down another. Also, after Czech and Italian, the next courses are below 60% and since courses seem to struggle to break 2% or even 1% per week, those two could well be the last new courses in beta this year.

June 5, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Aria487

Merci jrikhal! I must say Tamil alphabet looks very charming!

June 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/rowschank

It's a descendant of the Grantha-style script of the Southern Brahmi scripts. These are abugidae (where the consonant marker holds the vowel instead of the vowel being represented with a separate letter). You should check out the other South-Indian scripts too!

  • Tamil: தமிழ்
  • Malayalam: മലയാളം
  • Kannada: ಕನ್ನಡ
  • Telugu: తెలుగు

Tulu has a Tigalari script, but nowadays it almost exlusively uses Kannada script, and I don't think there's Tigalari in Unicode yet, so...

June 25, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Aria487

I must admit, I can be quite lazy if left to my own devices, so I greatly appreciate the teaser you gave me! Oh the emotion involved in writing, for example, this இ! ("i"? "Yi"?)
Okay, clearly a noob question, but does the alphabet have to be in Unicode to, for example, be presented on Duolingo? I always thought the main block for Japanese was that there's no alphabet, but characters and a far more extensive combination level between them. Incubation process here is supposed to be automatic, but the system couldn't easily distinguish words. So, can you enlighten me here? Only if it doesn't take too much time; I don't want to obstruct course development, as an example!

June 26, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/rowschank

Nobody has taken the time to make a typeface or a font for Tigalari yet, because hardly any Tuluva uses the script! (Tuluva = Tulu person). The script used today is almost exclusively the same script as Kannada (because Tulu Nadu is a part of Karnataka now and not its own state). Historically too, both have been very close, with the greatest Kannada emperor being from the Tuluvas.

இ = "I" (short, like in "win") [ ஈ = Ī (long, as in beat) , யி = Yi, which is the consonant ய + the vowel marker ]

June 26, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Aria487

Oh so it wasn't a question of formatting, but rather a "no typeface" problem. You've given me much to read, I might fall in love and learn the language, even. Thank you, for the info and for the explanation!

June 26, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/rowschank

No problem! :)

June 26, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LupoMikti

Thank you so much for all your work in doing this jrikhal! Though I think you may have forgotten to include the (A) and (S) next to the courses in the graphic...

June 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jrikhal

Good catch LupoMikti!
Thx for the remark!
Fixed.

June 5, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Patrick.-

Yay! A million learners of Esperanto in Duolingo!

June 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/annika_a

x 1,000 :-)

Edit: Oi, it's not that cool to edit your post significantly (and thus making responses to it meaningless) without acknowledging the edit...

June 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Patrick.-

How in the world do you have level 2 in hindi?

June 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/annika_a

Magic... X-)

June 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jrikhal

"a (past) bug/misclick by staff" is a definition of "magic" I didn't know. ;) ;)

June 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/annika_a

Nah, a staff member inadvertently leaning on the switch that puts some content on this page, that would be some real magic... ;-)

June 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Aria487

That would be a common question posed to annika_a, I think :D

June 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/annika_a

Indeed! My claim to fame...

June 4, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ptoro

And yet, still no one cares about this made-up language.

June 6, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lizsue

At least 1 million people care. 1,000,000 and 0 are not the same number. ;)

June 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DonFiore

I would say starting a language (any language) and caring about it are two different things.

June 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

Congrats to the Indonesian team on the huge jump! (or is that a technical artifact of some sort?)

June 6, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jrikhal

As the course's progress has drawn back 3 weeks ago, it's more likely due to addition/deletion of lexemes from the tree/template:

  • the draw back 3 weeks ago is probably due to addition of more skills/lessons/lexemes in the tree
  • this week jump is probably (partially) due to deletion of skills/lessons/lexemes from the tree

But, can't be sure.

June 6, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/nueby

Their overall word count seems to have stayed below 1300 during the new WIU era. Our hard minimum of 1500 should have stabilized the calculation so that only the completed word count would impact it.

June 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jrikhal

Indeed!
@All, please forgot my previous comment. ;)
Thx nueby!


Hence it means that, 3 weeks ago,

  • either they deleted some sentences that were associated with some completed words
  • or they deleted some words that were considered as completed by the system,

and that this week they (re)completed many words.

In any case, the variations are good news (even the negative one): it means they're working on the tree. ;)

June 10, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LavethWolf

Doulingo's new course guide told me to contact you or Lrtward directly if I wanted a new language listed to the guide, so I guess that's what I'll do.

I was wondering if you could possibly consider adding Karelian. It's not listed on Doulingo's new course guide and has no post on Doulingo specifically for it that I know of. Which is why I made one myself here.

Thank you.

June 15, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DeboraSanto

I really want to create a Serbian course for English speakers! I just applied for it in the incubator, I hope I'll be allowed to give this contribution :)

September 1, 2017
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