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- "This lunch is delicious."
"This lunch is delicious."
Translation:このお昼ご飯はおいしいです。
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And they really do eat that much rice! I lived near Kyoto for a year and by the time I left Japan I was kinda riced out.
そうのとりです Jk, it's more like "meal" instead of "rice", unless you actually eat rice for breakfast
Pretty much. There are other ways to say it too but that's generally the most used one.
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Duolinguo can sometimes be annoyingly inconsistent.
In part of this lesson it asks you to translate "This menu" and if you use Kono you are marked wrong.
Yet when it asks you to refer to "This lunch" you are marked wrong for not using Kono.
Make up your mind little green owl =P
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It is optional to put in お for customary reasons (Originally "beautifying" the word to make it sound more polite, but not a great distinction nowadays).
Does the 'o' go before the word for lunch only? I've only seen that combination here on duolingo. I have not seen the use of the 'o' with the words for breakfast or dinner. I'm wondering if it's only used with lunch as a custom and it would never be used with breakfast or dinner OR if it's just being used for lunch as part of the duelingo exercises and they just haven't paired it with the words for breakfast and dinner.
Maybe it's because the お in this context is just spelling out an artifact of speech. People put お in front of ひ because otherwise it's too easy for it to sound like い?
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I don't have an answer yet. It is the custom of Japanese and I have not got enough knowledge in the classical Japanese to explain this.
A few answers from the web (I don't know if this is true though) -
- https://ameblo.jp/team-builder/entry-12269831091.html
- https://ntwmachine.com/language-ohiru
- http://www.yano.bc.ca/vansin/vansinpo120.htm
One blogger said that because in the past ordinary people used to have only 2 meals a day - breakfast and dinner, and only the wealthy people could spare to have lunch, so to honor them people used the honorific お for 昼ごはん.
Another blogger said that because breakfast and dinner are usually eaten at home, whereas lunch is usually eaten outside, so people use the beautifying お for 昼ごはん more often when they are outside home.
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Well, when you say "polite", is this only used when complimenting a meal prepared by others? Or is it used for all things lunch?
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All lunch including yours. Customary お is used to beautify the sentence or make the sentence sound more natural. e.g. お寿司、お寺、ご飯、オシャレ
Why does it need to specifically be "this lunch" instead of just "lunch". Wouldn't the "this" be implied?
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Is this how you write oishii in kanji? So i guess these characters are pronunced "o" and "i" respectively?
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In this case, they are. In other cases, 美 can be read び or み or うつく ... maybe more. The same is true for 味 which can be read as み or あじ or others.
Don't worry about learning the readings, learn how they sound in context, and you'll pick up on patterns for each kanji.
この ひるごはん は おいしい is marked as correct, I guess the です is only to make it more formal.
Breakdown: このお昼ご飯は(kono ohirugohan ha, This [applies to next word]+lunch+topic marker) おいしいです(oishii desu, good+is).
Note: The hiragana symbol for 'ha' is pronounced 'wa' when used as a particle and is written as 'wa' in romaji. Some other Japanese hiragana symbols have different pronunciations when used as particles, such as direction particle 'he' (pronounced and written in romaji as 'e') and object marker particle 'wo' (pronounced 'o' but sometimes still written as 'wo' in romaji).
KoSoADo words: こ-near you そ-near the other person あ-away from both ど-question word
Easy, "kono" means "this" on the other hand "sono" means "that", "ano" also means "that" and the same applies to their "-re" counterparts, although I have not yet figured out what is the difference between the two sets.
What are the conditions under which I'd include or drop the を in front of ひるごはん? As I understand, it's to do with politeness, but as it's a part of speech not dealing with a person or basics like please/thanks, are recommendations for including this を a bit more lax than stuff like pronoun choice?
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There is no object in this sentence so it cannot include any を.
Edit: Sorry I think you mean お. It is optional here and does not relate to any politeness. It is customary お.
I was wondering the same and thought that maybe you'd be most likely to say a meal was delicious to the cook or the server, so the "o" was to be respectful to the one who provided your food?
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When saying おひる, it only means lunch. No implication whether it is "your lunch" or "the lunch you cooked." It is like おふろ, おすし, おさけ
Just in that moment when you think you understood how the particles は and が work, you mess it up. So, I get why は is usable here, but why can't I use が instead? The meaning should be obvious and if I'm not completely mistaken, it should be accepted. Or is there another problem? My answer was "このお昼ご飯がおいしいです". Thanks in advance :)
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As far as I can tell it should be, the only real difference would be what you are trying to emphasize, that the lunch is delicious (は) or that THIS lunch (as opposed to others) is delicious (が).
why do we use an honorific with my own food here?? Don't we have to use it with someone else's objects?
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No, it is not an honorific お. It is a customary お. It does not have any honorific elements but just to "beautify" the word that comes along.
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I assume not before 朝 because it starts with あ, but I have no answer for 晩 and I'm just speculating.
i forgot to put the kanji and it marked my answer wrong! Should my answer be accepted?
you used the Kanji in the wrong place :D the "oishii" is far more common without the Kanji, whereas the "hirugohan" is only written with Kanji
besides, you just said "gohan", which means "rice", while "hirugohan" means "lunch"
This question is broken for me. I have 3 times gotten it exactly right. I have checked it so many times and my answer is identical. I even copy/pasted the answer into notepad so I could make sure I am entering it right and it just keeps telling me I'm wrong. I just wanted to do 1 lesson today because I'm busy and I have blow a bunch of time on a broken question and can't complete the lesson.
I realized I could just click the keyboard button and paste it in. It's cheating but it wasn't working for some reason and I am not blowing more time to start over on a new lesson. I don't get why you have the option to report if a question is broken but you still have to magically solve it to get credit.
I wrote ここ昼ご飯はおいしいです, because in the suggestions of translation under "this" the first 2 examples were ”ここ”, and この was at the bottom, why wasn't my answer accepted?
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ここ is "this place." If you want to say "this something" you need to use この. If you say ここの昼ご飯 then it means the lunch at this place.
