Am I the Only One Finding Myself Having to Strengthen Things More Frequently?
After this update that duolingo just had, a lot of my exercises aren't staying gold for as long. I seem to be having to strengthen things that are near the basics level when I way further down the tree. It isn't stuff I need to revisit because I revisit them during the lessons I'm already doing. It's not just that, but they all seem to be needing strengthening more frequently, it makes it difficult to find time to actually progress. Anyone else having an issue like this? I believe I've seen some people talking about it.
UPDATE: It seems skills can be strengthened in new lessons. I did the Swedish prepositions lesson while my verbs 1 was weak (5/5 weakness, but not gold) and I came back to see it gold.
I have noticed that the decay rate has increased considerably on my newer languages, but not on my completed trees. In fact, the decay rate may have slowed somewhat on my completed trees.
I am currently working on the German tree, and the decay rate is beyond anything I have ever seen on any other tree --- and I have completed six trees. Even when I get everything right or maybe miss one question, a lesson will decay multiple times each day. For example, I have had to re-guild the Travel lesson three times in the past 24 hours. Some of the other lessons are decaying in less than 12 hours. I tried to keep up with it for a while, but it's impossible.
I'm experiencing something similar in the German tree, the strenghten skill lets me do basics multiple times a day. I'm a new user so I can't compare it to past experience. Maybe it's me being a bad learner? I'd like to trust the strenghten skills' pick of what to train, because that's the point of having an algorithm plan spaced repetition for me.
Actually, a comment I saw from Luis in the past few days indicated they didn't know why someone's degilding rate had recently amped up. He said they were looking into it.
I think the changes of the past week or so are separate from the increases of two months or so ago that also increased degilding rates, and which were explained in a post by staff.
I haven't noticed any worsening of the rate of degradation recently, if anything it seems like it has slowed down for me. Maybe it just means I'm adapting to the changes made several weeks ago? I'm not sure I'll ever get back to a 100% gold French tree, though.
But in the past few weeks I've had the first node in the French tree (Basics 1) go non-gold. Really??
Noticed the same behaviour. Fair enough you don't have to keep it golden all the time, on the other hand it should show, that you have to revisit some items in order to keep your memory fresh. But recently the rate at which this review pops up is insane. I'm roughly 60% through my tree and need to redo phrases from the second row. And in the meantime the skills are rotting away, because at least 4-5 popping up each day, I'm not even able to progress in any way, if I want to have the ~0% to-be-reviewed rate. Quite annoying, instead of practising the hard stuff, Duo is just randomly producing a lot of practise noise, which in this extent slows down my motivation continue learning in the skill...
I just learned the 'Intro' skill in German a few days ago, and it's already down to 3/5! It's very flustering!
I'm having to manually make a note of what lessons I've done so I know which skills to do again the next day. Feel like I'm doing more work, which is really annoying when Duolingo's algorithm used to do the work for me! Now most of my skills are 3/5 but I /know/ they can't all be 3/5 and I can't distinguish between them without keeping some kind of diary on which skills I've tested myself on recently. So frustrating, and I really hope this is a bug that they fix soon :/
I've just decided to stop trying to maintain my skills golden too, and will review them when I think it's time :) Otherwise I would barely be able to learn new ones now. The algorithm really needs to be tweaked, the decay rate is insane ! Or the user needs more control over this. For example a simple button to tell "Hey Duo, I don't think I need to repeat this skill now !" would already be an improvement
I totally agree. Either reduce the decay rate to something reasonable - I haven't learnt anything new for about a month - or give us some kind of "skip" button. From now I'm going to keep a manual log of where I'm at and not bother to regild skills for the sake of it. It's not helping me learn anything.
Mine seems to have slowed down. I think they are getting better at deciding when it is needed. Review is necessary, it is where the real learning happens. The patterns need to become ingrained, automatic. It is not a waste of time even when you get it all right. I think the regilding algorithm is one of the best things about duolingo.
I'm currently working on three trees and Greek is the only one with this problem, sometimes I need to strengthen a skill twice a day. It doesn't help that the skill specific strengthening seems to always use the same words, meaning I have to strengthen it by redoing lessons. In Swedish I actually have the opposite problem, I have finished the tree and only one of the skills has decayed during the last 10 days. French is the only reasonable one with 2-3 skills decaying per day.