https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Martin992084

No longer upgrading the Duolingo app

Anyone who has been perusing the discussion board recently cannot help but notice an increasing number of threads outlining the extreme frustration that is being repeatedly generated by continually reckless changes to the Duolingo learning experience.

Whether it is messing around with the progress bar, changes to the 'golding' algorithms, the removal of the weekly progress graph, obnoxious A/B tests, the change from lingots to gems or the not-so-stealthy monetisation in all its form, the number of threads expressing dissatisfaction with the manner in which these supposed 'investigative approaches' are being carried out leaves a great deal to be desired.

There's an increasing number of people who have expressed their desire to seek alternatives to Duo and this is completely understandable if they feel their user experience has been eroded or destroyed by the more recent changes.

From a personal perspective, I enjoy and appreciate my Duo experience just the way it is on the iOS app and have no desire to log in one day and find all the parameters changed. I still find it annoying that many months ago the weekly progress graph was removed and despite numerous vocal calls for it to be reinstated, it never was. It's hard to imagine that this change was somehow productive and it's clear from the increasing volume of threads that there's a complete disconnect between the Duo developers and the Duo users.

Quite honestly I am tired of the 'monetisation debate', every organisation across the globe has to balance it's budget. If the Duo interface that we know and love is going to be destroyed by repeated inane attempts to hoist adverts, fees and restrictions on learners, then rather than the slow death of the program that the community is experiencing now (as witnessed by the increasingly widespread dissatisfaction expressed by a growing number of users) then I would rather that a flat monthly fee be imposed to use the program and preserve the learning environment as is, rather than it be changed completely in the name of being supposedly 'free' with many 'interactive areas requiring payment'.

I will be searching for another language program that can provide a stable and supportive learner experience similar to Duo and acknowledge that I may have to pay for that, however in the meantime I have decided not to upgrade my iOS app to reduce the risk that I may inadvertently ruin my user experience prior to finding another, hopefully better, deeper, more considerate learning platform elsewhere.

I doubt that my voice will register at the corporate level but as a strong supporter of the Duolingo learning experience the only thing I can realistically do is to express my opinion here on this discussion board in the hope that a more considered and incremental approach to changes is deployed with the learner regarded as being front and centre rather than as mere 'guinea pig' or 'lab rat' to carry out 'testing' on.

Come on Duo, get your act together!

June 8, 2017

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/xislexstep

thank you for expressing this position so well. i have many of the same frustrations and misgivings about the method duolingo is choosing-stealth, rather than candor-in regards to it's fiduciary requirements. I'd be glad to subscribe-for unfettered nanny-free 'health' monitoring. I'd be even gladder, downright ecstatic to see an on-line store where I could shop for: t-shirts with the all the duolingo graphics. I'd proudly wear my french language dou on a pillar icon on a shirt, or iphone case. omg, little duo earrings. There are infinite ways to monetize the duolingo concept without killing the very thing itself. I, also, am not updating the app. thanks again, best wishes.

June 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Elleasar

The financial needs of Duo far exceed the tiny revenue one can achieve with occasional merchendise sales. It sounds charming but doesn't cut it, as Luis laid out.

June 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Alice54_Maree3.

I mostly use the web version on my laptop but do sometimes use my android devices via the app.Fortunately I stopped updating the apps quite some time back so I am not experiencing any of these problems.I hope they never force me to update..I tried Mondlylanguage for a while but haven't done much of it as i have been too busy with Duo.It seemed to be quite good.I think you do have to pay for full membership but I read on a duo thread once that if you type in "Mondly" where it asks for a code it will get you into full access for free.I tried it and it worked.Hopefully it still does.All the best with whatever you do

June 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BrianPlatt

What an elegant expression of my entire family's recent "how much DuoLingo sucks now" discussion. Have a Lingot for your efforts!

June 10, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/HoeckerCarlos

It looks very good!
is it free or just the first lessons are free?
is it good compared with Duo?

June 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Pecil1
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Duo is much better. You could use Mondly for the free daily lessons but the paid version is not woth it.

June 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/aIdehyde

Unfortunately, only the first few lessons are free. I'm not sure how the paid version compares to Duo, but I'm sticking with Duo in the meantime (and refraining from updating the app).

June 8, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Larkspire

Have you ever been frustrated when Duo marked you wrong for using a synonym? Mondly is much worse on that front. The courses I tried also seemed more like a phrasebook experience than a course designed to move you up the European Framework.

June 10, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zekecoma

Then use the desktop. It's not garbage like the mobile app.

June 9, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Daerdemandt

Gold decay is broken on desktop too. I was using "strenghten skills" as one-stop shop of spaced repetition for all your skills, it's broken now - keeps me running through the same dozen skills for couple weeks, despite them all being nigh-gold, when there are ones that really need revising.

June 10, 2017
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