"くもり"
Translation:cloudy
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Agreed. Dictionaries also give "cloudiness" -- but in either case, it's a noun. "Cloudy" is an adjective.
I don't think “noun” and “adjective” can so easily be applied to Japanese. Sure, “曇り“ is a noun meaning “cloudy weather”, but what do you say when you mean “it's cloudy”? “曇りです“. And what about “cloudy day”? “曇りの日“. But the dictionary form of that “曇りの“ (which is basically an adjective) is still only “曇り”. So, yeah, I think “cloudy” is an appropriate translation for the word in isolation, as is “cloudy weather”.
If it were an adjective, it wouldn't require the particle の in order to be used to describe a noun.
Not really. Cumulus is an English noun used to describe those puffy white clouds with flat bottoms. It just has a Latin root.
The Kumo Village in Naruto and Naruto Shippuden. Literally, The village [hidden in] the clouds.
rain rain go away くもり another day (sounds like come again so by remembering this nursery rhyme switching come again with くもり you can remember the rain coming and its cloudy if it rains so you can kinda connect cloudy with rain)
It sounds similar to the polish word "chmury" which means clouds. That's how I remember it.
Would "hito wa kumori desu?" be how you say "It's cloudy today"? Or is there something missing?
That would be saying "The person is cloudy." To say "It's cloudy today” You have to say きょうはくもりです。（kyou wa kumori desu.）kyou is the noun for 'today'.
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This is because は in this sentence is a "topic marker." This maybe a new concept if you only know European languages, a topic marker indicates what the topic is in this sentence. "きょうはくもりです。" the topic is "today" (implying "I am talking about TODAY.") so you use は to indicates this. This is a really hard topic so don't worry if you find it difficult. In Japanese, due to historical reasons, は is ONLY pronounced as "wa" in this case.
Thank you for explinning that to us andrew-lin now im not confused anymore thank you so much
A: 天気はどうですか？ (Tenki wa dou desu ka How's the weather?)
B:曇りです。(Kumori desu).
To me, "it's cloudy" would make the most sense for B, and "it's cloudiness" would sound strange.
I'm really very confused about the character for "ri". Isn't it the one with two lines?
り ri
Some fonts connect the two lines, while others make them separate. Both are correct.
Sounds like "cool morning" to me, so it'll be a cool (temperature) morning if it's cloudy
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Since I've a slight hearing loss, I'm not sure if the last syllable is actually being pronounced "ri", which is what I'd expect from the hiragana used. To me the sound file is sounding more like "di". Am I mis-hearing?
I think you're hearing it correctly. The Japanese "r" sound isn't the same as an English "r" sound. It's made by touching your tongue to the roof of your mouth, similar to how we make a "d" sound but slightly more back. This results in many people hearing the Japanese "r" sound as a "d".
why duolingo colored the MO in kuMOri? does Mo is the root means cloud or cloudy?
Duo will highlight a character/part of a word the first time it is introduced to you. くもり is the full word, も is just highlighted as it is likely the first time that specific kana has been shown to you in a word.
Luckily though くも can be cloud or spider, くもり is only cloudy. I don't want it to be spidery out... that's why I don't live in Australia.
I think of American rapper Kool Moe Dee. I take off the L and that's how i remember
like in russian хмурно "kh moor noh(cloudy), хмурная погода, like in Japanese ku mo ri.
It would actually be kyou wa kumori desu ka, hiru apparently means person more than it does day
I think you're thinking of hito: https://jisho.org/search/hito
Hiru means "daytime" : https://jisho.org/search/hiru
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Although I realise you expect くもりto be translated as "cloudy", why do you mark "spiders" as wrong when that is given as an alternative meaning?
くも could be spiders, but くもり is cloudy.
It's actually shocking that they introduce cloudy early on but not cloud, even though it's very similar. When they get to introducing clouds later in the course, then try to trick it with spiders and see if it works. ;)
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Hi guys
New to learning Japanese and I'm a little confused about the symbol for 'ri'
The word Kumori came up in my 'Hiragana' 1 unit and the symbol for ri is り , but in the 'learn the characters' section the symbol for "ri" is joined up so it almost looks like an 'n' are these interchangeable?
Yes, they are simply displaying in different fonts :)
Some fonts show the drag of a calligraphy brush around a curve/between strokes, while others show the slight lift of it, leaving a gap.
You'll also see this with other characters like き、さ、ち、ふ、そ、and こ
Isolaciao posted a font comparison for り above on this page as well: https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/22997211?comment_id=35736017
Duo's forums do not have a dedicated font, so it uses the default font of your browser/device, (while the characters lessons do) meaning even on just Duo they may look different depending on how you are viewing it.
When I click on the word, the first translation is cloudy, but one below it are spider and spiders? Is that based on context? It means both?
曇り・くもり is "cloudy"
くも (蜘蛛 but usually written in kana alone) is "spider"