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Translation:two

June 10, 2017

70 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/dongxipunata

Had this in my placement test. You can't really know that this is "two" without any context or the kanji ニ. This could mean so many things. I for example tried "at" as one of the functions of the に particle. Sorry if this is out of place in the context of a lesson on numbers.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/MarajosGar13

that is so true, kanjis are really necessary


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Eiswolfe

It accepted "In" as an answer, though I had written it accidentally, but when I hovered over に it did not offer "In" as a valid translation. Is this a system error or does に also translate to "In"?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Chogo777

Good question. I write down what i learned it as "ni"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LazStefani

Same. It doesn't say "translate" like in other questions. For Greek questions it says the same the with the greek letter and Greek pronunciation and the answer is always what the corresponding sound in English is.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PERCE_NEIGE

If it says" write in English", it means writting using English words. Ni isn't an English word. It's the phonetic translation, using a different letter system.

They would have said 'write the transcription".

If you say "ni" you don't talk in English neither. So, you don't write in English.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Soy_Jaguar

It can translate to in for sure, but very loosely. Like 本当に means in truth, though if you word for word translate it you would say truthfully to (subject)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PERCE_NEIGE

Did they say that it was a typo when it was accepted?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BTSARMYUNITE

You a polyglot? Or what? If you are, cool!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Acha3170

And it also means "to"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DABurnside

DL didn't accept "to" for me. DL wanted "two."


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/vic.chan

Fun fact; to is 2 in Norwegian and Danish.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tryptid

Yes, "at" shouldn't be a choice here. Since you can't tell from context or kanji, it should try to avoid anything the に particle can get transliterated to like "at", "on", "to"... My guess is that in the Duolingo meta if it asks for a word definition it won't be a particle, it seems to ask that another way, in sentences (the particles make little sense alone, most of them, or its slangy to do so)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mgregorio_23

What is a particle?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shinobusagi

It's how we refer to single graphemes with a certain grammatical function. E.g. に、で、と、は、が、の、を. In some cases they are like prepositions, in some they are conjunctions, and some indicate the role of other words in a sentence.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sho101786

sorry I have just started learning but whats kanji?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/NigelDB

Kanji literally means chinese character. Japanese use Kanji to write with along with hiragana and katakana. Hiragana usually is used to write native japanese words and katakana is used to write foreign words or names or slang words.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/somelauw

don't worry about the context of numbers. I got this in the first kanji skill, where it could just as well accept "ni", because that is the sound it makes.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Boro819824

the knights who say two


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Xyaneon

You are supposed to translate it to the English word it means, not the pronunciation.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/El_Zanahoria

Then it should say 'Translate this into English.'


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/El_Zanahoria

If you are going to down vote you could at least explain why.

That character can be written in English as 'ni' but it is translated to English as 'two'. There is a clear difference.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PERCE_NEIGE

"Ni" IS NOT English. It's not an English word at all.

Ni is Japanese. It's a Japanese word written using a different alphabet system. But it doesn't make it "written in English".

Writting in English means using English words.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/TeoM.M.

Ni is Romaji


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Prathamesh543279

Ni is a transliteration


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/runninswaggy

My first question in the placement test was to write the translation of に in English. I thought it was trying to determine whether I understood hirigana, and answered "Ni". As mentioned by many before, one can't know that the answer should be "two" without any more context. It's frustrating, because this vague "question" influences where I'll be placed... :/

(I hope this comment is helpful in shaping the course; I appreciate the work that y'all are putting into this valuable endeavor! Thank you for giving me a way to practice my language skills!)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Zamomin

Does anyone else find it weird that the Japanese word for "one" contains two letters and the word for "two" contains one letter?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kai19154

well, the kanji for them is just one line and two lines so haha


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sum_Gai

Actually, they don't contain any letters. Kana is a syllabary; someone corrected that to a more accurate writing system in comments for another question, but I don't remember what it is called. However, I agree that 一(いち) having 1 stroke but 2 syllables and 二(に) having 2 strokes but 1 syllable is silly.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DanToms

I remember them at "itchy knee"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PERCE_NEIGE

Yes. But if they asked you to translate, they expect an English word here.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RebelBrigid

What is the difference between this and the two lines (like an equal sign) without the one on the side?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Tc3KDQp5

Do you mean 二?

If so, that's just the kanji for "two". It has the same meaning, and is mostly read as に, with some exceptions.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/RebelBrigid

What are some of the exceptions?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shinobusagi

Exceptions are when it's used in compounds; in those cases you use the on-yomi (Sino-Japanese reading. For example 二つ (ふたつ) "2 pieces/items", or 二人 (ふたり) "2 people".


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shanliang

To complement, '二' can also be the katana form of 'に'.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jectoons

に Is hiragana for "ni"; ニ is katakana for the same syllable, and also the kanji for number 2.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/zazakoolaid

Or do you also mean the hiragana 「こ」(ko) ?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sum_Gai

So ya'll can see the difference: 2 二, ニ "katakana ni", ko こ. At least on my screen they are all different enough to identify, and with proper calligraphy they are even more different.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/rubusarbaro

に = Particule that indicates place. 二 = Number 2 or "ni" in katakana

For this reason Kanji are necessary.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/clanderholm

The question doesn't say translate this to English, it says write this in English. I answered "ni" because that is how it is written in English. If you want a translation, phrase the question to say "translate this into English"


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sum_Gai

ni isn't に in English. It's Romaji, which is the representation of かな in a Roman/Latin based alphabet. English and almost all European languages use Roman/Latin based alphabets. If Romaji was English, it would be spelled nee, because in English the letters "a e i o u" sound like "e i ai o yu" in every other Latin based language I have seen (I hope that makes sense to someone). Not familiar enough with the history to say it as a fact, but since Portugal had visitors to Japan before other Europeans, Romaji is probably based more on Portuguese than any other alphabet.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/gift_of_GABA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hepburn_romanization When people mention Romaji, they usually mean this. It was invented by an American missionary and maps Japanese sounds onto their closest English equivalents. Unlike Kunrei which focuses on maintaining orthographic consistency, Hepburn is phonetic, more about accurate pronunciation.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/carlos.a.g7

There is a curious fact which helped me to learn how to say "two" and "three" in Japanese (way before I wanted to learn xD).

Nissan, the Japanese car company, always have a car with the number 23 in the races, because 2 is "Ni", and 3 "San".


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Cameron582780

二 should work too right? I'm 99.9% sure it means "two".


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    WHAT IS ー!?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shinobusagi

    ー INDICATES AN EXTENDED VOWEL IN KATAKANA!

    For example, ビル biru means "building", but with that dash; ビール bīru means "beer". And just in case you meant 一, that's いち, meaning "one" (1).


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kawaiidevi2

    one of my Japanese teachers said that that is not 2. there is a meaning for 2 in kanji but not in hiragana


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Emme997394

    Hiragana is basically just syllables/letters in Japanese. に can mean many different things in hiragana, including 2. You can also write 2 in kanji.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/AdamReisman

    I just noticed that に can mean two or to! (And yes, I have no life).


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Swisidniak

    It is a neat little parallel Japanese has with English :)


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/JGinvokesparley

    My exercise was of the "write what you hear" sort, so I've just gone for 二, as I know it to be the number two. It is rather frustrating to be marked wrong just because I didn't know the accepted answer was exclusively in ひらがな.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Raphael-Ribeiro

    Take a look in these 2 links below (You'll learn concepts basics about grammar rules and earn vocabulary):

    https://www.duolingo.com/comment/7963862 https://www.duolingo.com/comment/24871159


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Misa433087

    Anybody fluently speaking japanese here? Because I don't know: When do you write a word in kanji and when in Hiragana? Are all words written in Kanji and these in Hiragana are exceptions? Or can chose how you want to write it? Should I learn the words in both or just in Kanji? Are there words you can only write in Hiragana?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Sum_Gai

    If there are Kanji that make a word, and you know the Kanji, use Kanji. Most numbers nowadays are written using the Arabic numerals. Hiragana is usually reserved for grammar, but there are exceptions. Child, or 子ども, is one. There are 2 Kanji in the word, but the 2nd doesn't have a meaning in this word so it is usually written 子ども or こども.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/LeuarReyes

    You answer "Ni" only if a TRANSLITERATION is asked. "Two" isthe correct answer because it's the TRANSLATION lf the character "に", not the transliteration called romaji.

    I don't get why people get stuck here. There are going to be stuff way more annoying than this later on, you'll see...


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Mono_no_aware

    Which alphabet is using more often - hiragana or katagana? Which is more useful?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/christians92543

    hiraganas are used more often, but it is both still essential because: hiraganas are used for the original words from Japan itself like: てんぷら (tempura) meanwhile katakanas are used for adapted languages like: マクドナルド (makudonarudo which comes from the word "mcdonalds") so I think, yes you would need to learn both in order to be able to understand the language, though kanjis are also often used in a sentence so you would definitely need to learn that as well


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Oxy_cleans

    This question is wack it asked to type what you hear, and i put 二(ni) and it counted it wrong?????


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Swisidniak

    Listening questions are auto-generated and only accept a single best answer.
    Since this is from a hiragana lesson, kanji are not acceptable.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sinestre

    I feel that the hiragana 'ni' does not mean two at all, and that only the kanji 'ni' means two. the hiragana 'ni' is a particle. I failed this in my duolingo strengthening under "write this in english".


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DarkSSJShinji

    Ever get that feeling when you type in the Romanji of the number without thinking when you're prompted for the English translation?


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Ryan4212

    Im already on level 4 and im learning the same stuff as level 1. Its not getting harder. Its the same words over and over.


    https://www.duolingo.com/profile/CHRISTIECH135625

    I wrote one for my answer. Duolingo said I had a typo and the answer was "On". This does not make sense!

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