Besides French on Duo..
Besides French on duolingo, what else are you doing to learn french?
My story: I took a course for 2 months afterwards, I worked with a private tutor this was basically to learn the comprehensive grammer rules
I found 4 language exchange partners and I practiced up to 5 times a week for close to a year.
I am now officially bilingual.
what's your story?
read some comics in both languages
Oh, wow! That looks great! Cool presentation.
Thank you so much, Jack. I was looking for some comics to read.
Sure, I would love that. I'm studying Franch too.
I know this comic very well from my native language. I'm a fan.
So how long total did you spend learning French before hitting that bilingual mark?
Right now I'm focusing on Duolingo supplemented with grammar books, and I've recently introduced French broadcasts to the mix in an effort to better understand the language as its spoken. I've also started exposing myself to the French versions of things as often as possible, whether that's French subtitles, French guidebooks, or the French versions of games. My angle is to try and let as much as possible seep in, even if I don't fully understand what I'm hearing or looking at right away.
I actually really love the idea of changing the native language of video games to French. I will actually need to try that out because I'm sure it would be beneficial to learning the language ^ ^.
I've been playing Sam and Max: Hit the Road this way and it's pretty fun. I think it helps to play a game that you already kind of know the dialogue in.
Those will all help! I did not worry about understanding everything, it does come back to you. In terms of the time it took, i'd say nearly 2 years or more accurately 21 months.
Wow! That's pretty quick! What motivated you to learn French so quickly? I'm gonna have to find some language exchange partners and look into a private tutor.
I live in a town where the best jobs go to those who are bilingual. I was tired of getting rejected simply because I did not speak french. I will recommend a course that can teach you the grammer however, in my humble opinon, I would not spend so much on it. There are free resources at public libraries that can assit. As far as a language exchange partner, there are different free groups that I discovered in my area using meetup.com or converstionalexchange.com
So the most important question here is, do you have one of those best jobs in town now? That's definitely a good motivation to learn.
"Officially bilingual" after 21 months studying a language? Can you please share who is stating it "officially"?
After I studying English in the school for 10 years, living in UK for a year, working using English daily with the US office of my previous company for 4 years and currently living in an English speaking country (almost a year so far). I still have doubts if I am bilingual in English ... Why? Because I cannot understand Shakespeare's poetry and when I am watching a film in English and while whatsapping I cannot understand what the actors say.
"A study by Horwitz asked undergraduate students: “If someone spent one hour a day learning a language, how long would it take him/her to become fluent?”. Forty percent of the students questioned believed it would take 1-2 years. Horwitz describes this as “unrealistic” and indicates that students “who anticipate fluency in two years are destined for severe disappointment and thus would seem likely candidates for dropping out.” Keep in mind, this study was performed on University students in Texas, taking formal courses." (Source: https://frenchcrazy.com/2011/08/how-long-does-it-take-to-become-fluent.html/)
All this said, being fluent in a language is beautiful. Fortunately, there exist a whole new level that opens the possibility of getting bilingual and learning the culture, new vocabulary, cuisine, literature, etc etc. Let's imagine reading Victor Hugo in French: delicieux ...
I was tested by our government issued tests. They were intensive tests on my reading, writing, (comphrension) and oral capability. One can always improve their language skills, in fact, i'm still improving my english. But to say that I'm not fluent would be inaccurate.
So do the tests break down to A1-C1 levels or just pass and fail? Are there scores? What scores would be considered as "bilingual"? I'm an American. Can I come and take the tests (assuming you live in Canada)? :-)
the tests are administered by the dept that wants to hire you within the federal government. Thus, a person must have been successful in a recruitment process before they can be tested. Yes, there are levels. for example, E is for exempt while C is fluent. I will work to be Exempt from such tests in the future.
The reading and writing tests is a scoring system and it is electronically graded. However your grade is also split into a level depending on the score. For example scoring 45/50 points will be graded 'E' for exempt
So C is lower than exempt (E)? What is the minimum score to be a bilingual? C (fluent)?
Congrats and good luck to you.
well one has to pass the reading and writing tests to be even called for the oral. There are exceptions but one must score at least 31/50 (intermediate level) yes C is lower than E.
If one is an intermediate with their grammer, then they can do the oral test. The oral test does not have an explicit scoring system that i know of. Its one on one and and it measures: can you communicate in complete sentences with proper tenses, verbs, appropiate vocabulary, etc. Can you summarize thoughts and ideas of others? rephrase paragraphs? give your opinon on topics
Well, you are a long way ahead of me clearly. I did Duolingo, although now I'm mostly watching videos, paying attention to everything, and also many Skype calls. I hope my grammar will improve eventually also.
Skype calls definitely help if you remain speaking in french. So choose someone who either doesn't speak English or knows little English. Otherwise you end up speaking in English the whole time.