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How I Learn Dutch

Recently, I have been searching for children's books (in Dutch) to learn some new words and grammar. So I found this book "Jip en Janneke". I get them here. It is a really nice book to learn Dutch. While reading, I highlight or underline the new words I encounter and search for the meaning of that word. The new words I see, I write them in a popsicle stick (I use popsicle sticks because I have lots of unused popsicle sticks ...."recycling"). I use them like flashcards. After putting all the words, I put them in cups that are labeled "Verbs", "Nouns", "Adverbs" etc. That is basically what I do with other languages I study. :))

March 22, 2014

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Susande

For the music fans, some famous Dutch songs, I tried to look for ones with clear pronunciation and lyrics that are not too poetic:

Ramses Shaffy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HThgAQksAjI

Fluitsma Van Tijn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8b_et-rfyM

De Dijk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adNYFh1P3Kk

Van Dik Hout: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1qwUdA7YOQ

Boudewijn de Groot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY7JwcKo-LQ

Hans de Booy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq6A5NqWqEk

Acda De Munnik: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9se4u8RPc88

Bløf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cf784XojI0

Doe Maar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW11YmO1W50

Frank Boeijen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgmv1mnaRaA

Clouseau: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlVawFt-Xa0

Raymond van het Groenewoud: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTGeMfAgWfo

Most of them are quite close to standard Dutch as spoken in the Netherlands. Doe Maar and Frank Boeijen have the soft g (accent from south-east of the Netherlands), Clouseau and Raymond van het Groenewoud are from Belgium (so they also have the soft g).

If anyone is interested in more music, or a specific genre, just ask. :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Erven.R

Thanks! I have been looking for some great songs!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mirandamirandaa

Handy for learning songs, but great songs they are not :-)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/johaquila

I am immensely grateful to you for the pointer to Drs P. I had never heard of him before, and now I'm a fan. (E.g., the way he looks at his notes at 0:31 of Veerpont to refresh his mind on the supposedly technical term overkant nearly cracks me up each time.) Finally I have a real reason to learn the language!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/kirlll

Awesome, you're welcome! =)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mirandamirandaa

Dont mind de video, great dutch song by Eefje de Visser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC_kKMHZGpk

Some excellent dutch hip/hop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt1RuvvBga4

Some more dutch hip/hop WITH lyrics,.. advanced though.. oops https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yOk4Yjt3xM


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mirandamirandaa

sorry, handy for learning the language


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/patrisallegro

Thank you, I have been looking for this


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lavinae

That's a really useful source! ^^
I used to enjoy reading Jip en Janneke when I was a child.

'Pluk van de Petteflet', by the same author, is also a nice book for learning Dutch. I'm not sure whether you've already come across this book, but you can find an online version here :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Erven.R

Thanks! Now I have more to read AND learn!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jack.Elliot

thank you i will look for Jip en Janneke ....

Been reading "The Gruffallo" for wee ones ... and I think I will look for it Dutch and Polish

smiling and learning ... all the best ... Jack


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Revember

Pinnkeltje is also really good :-). Lavinae, post from your side about learning Dutch will be very useful for us Dutch-learners. By the way, do you have any updates about Dutch for English speakers?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lavinae

Yeah, Pinkeltje is great ^^

Hm... I'm already preparing grammar threads for the reverse course and I'll make sure to address major issues with learning Dutch there, on demand. I don't think I can really describe the process of learning Dutch in one post though.


However, from professional experience, teaching expats Dutch, pronunciation is the biggest issue. Grammar should be easier to learn than German, for example. It's good to start with some basic vocabulary (acquired through Duolingo, anki, memrise, etc.), learn the grammar rules (by purchasing good learning material, in the form of books, such as De Delftse Methode, Taal Vitaal and later Klare Taal which is great at grammar, but completely in Dutch) and then start reading but above all listening to the language (which will teach you more vocabulary).

Concerning listening and reading practice, it is indeed wise to start with children's books and kids' shows and especially those which explain phenomena, science or history, because the language used is clear. Even better would be to look at material which you're familiar with so that you can guess what's being said and follow the show/reading without too much difficulty. You can thereafter look for material of increasing difficulty, such as magazines, newspapers, news reports on TV, etcetera.

Then again, nobody learns a language the same way. For instance, whether you already know multiple languages and the nature of your native language largely affect how you learn Dutch and your learning process should be adapted accordingly.


Regarding the English --> Dutch course, we've had a bit of a delay due to issues with the new incubator tree. There have been some serious bugs (and there are still some little ones) which have hindered (or actually completely stalled...) our progress. Hopefully we'll be able to make some solid progress (at the end of) this weekend. :)

I'll be posting an update once we get the most basic lessons done, so be on the lookout! ;)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/johaquila

Now that you have mentioned the bugs, it's pretty obvious that all the new target languages are at 0% progress according to their little blue icons. With the glorious exception of Dutch, which seems to be at 1% or 2%. So it looks like the Dutch team is the most valiant in the face of the present adversity.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lavinae

Where there's a will there's a way ;)

That, and our challenges are relatively minor compared to those that many of the other incubator mods/contributors are facing. :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Laurann333

I would recommend 'Floddertje' and 'De computerheks', I used to love those :)

I like the popsicle stick idea! Creative!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jack.Elliot

cheers i will look at the book .. "de en het " confuse me sometimes and a thing like that would help me

Thank you very much


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mirandamirandaa

Jip and Janneke are extremly popular in Holland. They must be so helpful for someone who is starting to speak dutch. Good luck with it. (Jip en Janneke zijn erg populair in Holland. Ze zijn vast erg behulpzaam voor iemand die net de Nederlandse taal begint te spreken. Veel geluk.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SvenDK

What I remember from my german classes was watching chilfrens' news. Www.jeugdjournaal.nl gives you an archive from the Netherlands. Www.ketnet.be gives you a Belgian view/sound.

They are less appropriate as the German version I used to look at, as that had also a full transcription.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Marie-Hailie

Ja inderdaad / Yes indeed ! Karrewiet :p


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/johaquila

One problem with learning Dutch using the reverse course is that the wrong language (English) is spoken to us. I thought I had a good idea of Dutch pronunciation anyway as it is written phonetically. It seems I was wrong. I found out by listening to Jip en Janneke as read by Dutch speakers on Youtube while reading the book. I think I can recommend the experience.

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