"Welcome back, Dad."
Translation:おかえりなさい、お父さん。
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お父さん (otousan) can be used to refer to anyone's father, including your own. 父 (chichi) is more restrictive, and can only be used to refer to the speaker's own father. In general, if you're addressing your father directly, you would use お父さん (or simply 父さん), not just 父.
How often would one address another man as father instead of identifying them by name though? I'm assuming this is a cultural thing? Seems confusing to me.
Well, it could also just be a case of talking to someone else about their father, for example. So when you want to ask "How is your father", you would probably say 「お父さんはげんきですか？」 or some such. When you ask your father how he is, I suppose it would be 「お父さん、げんきですか？」 and when you want to ask your sibling, say, how your own father is, then I guess it could be 「父はげんきですか？」 Mind you, I'm a learner myself, so take all this with a grain of salt.
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Great explanation!
But just to clarify, that last 父 is pronouncedちち
So when two or more siblings are asking about their father they would usually either ask
父(ちち)はお元気ですか or 父(とう)さんは元気ですか
But I'm no expert either, so please correct me were I'm wrong, thx : )
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If you are talking to him, you honor him by saying otousan. If you are talking about him to someone else you humble yourself by referring to him in the informal.
ちち is used when referring to your own father お父さん is used when referring to another person's father ^ both cases are when you are talking with someone outside of your family. Using either ちちor お父さん when talking ABOUT your families establishes an easier way to know who you are referring to.
When talking to your own father you can use お父さん, 父さん,etc.
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When children talk about their own dads, they may say "otousan," but by the time they're teens and certainly when they are adults, the humble "chichi" is used when talking ABOUT one's own dad, but never when talking TO him. It's all about circles. Inside the family circle, you're respectful to all persons older than you. When talking to someone outside your circle, you refer to yourself and your family with humble words. The same thing goes for the office circle, the friends circle, etc. So we don't use "chichi" when addressing our own father. We always use otousan, or "tousan." You may, however, use "papa"!
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A good 10 lessons later, i finally got to learn that 帰り (かえり) means to return/ to come home. なさい is a polite ending and お is an honorific similar to how 茶 (tea) usually becomes お茶. Helps to remember this sentance :)
I appreciate you saying this! I wish we could break up these new, long terms like that when we learn them here, because otherwise it is just an arbitrary new sound that is therefore difficult to remember.
I got it wrong using the same phrasing おかえりなさい、父。 Seems like the sentence in English should use Father instead of Dad if the lesson is trying to indicate more formal speaking.
"If you are talking to him, you honor him by saying otousan. If you are talking about him to someone else you humble yourself by referring to him in the informal." -molly640546
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This is a good question. I feel that in Japanese, the person you are talking to or about is named first, but Duo has lots of these, "Welcome home, Father" type phrases where I want to type お父さん, おかえりなさい but they have it the other way around. I hope someone will be able to answer your question and clear it up! :)
お父さん (otōsan) is also father, but it's the formal, polite version. Have a read of the duolingo wiki if you're interested. I hope it helps! https://duolingo.fandom.com/wiki/Japanese_Skill:Family
I believe chichi is even referring to your own father speaking to someone outside your family, so when you're taking to your father, the relation is implied
"Okaerinasai" is when you are welcoming someone else back. "Tadaima" is when you are announcing that you are back. It has nothing to do with whom you're addressing - just a difference in who is coming through the door!
I think this is wrong. If the translation is "dad", which is more informal, the japanese word should be 父. お父さん is more like a formal "father"
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No, one never uses "chichi" when addressing one's father. We always use otousan, or "tousan." You may, however, use "papa"! When children talk about their own dads, they may say "otousan," but by the time they're teens and certainly when they are adults, the humble "chichi" is used when talking ABOUT one's own dad, but never when talking TO him. It's all about circles. Inside the family circle, you're respectful to all persons older than you. When talking to someone outside your circle, you refer to yourself and your family with humble words. The same thing goes for the office circle, the friends circle, etc.
For multiple choice, one of the other ones was お帰りなさい、父。 Which is literally the same thing! I didn't tap it, so I don't know if it would be accepted.
I'd like to know why おかえり，父 is marked as wrong, considering they mean the same thing.
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I used 父親 by accident, but surely that isn't wrong even though I was marked wrong?