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What is "megköszön vkinek vmit"?

I was working through a Duolingo lesson for Hungarian (first skill, third lesson if you're interested), and on one of the sentences it said a possible translation for "Thank you" was "Köszönöm", and also "Megköszön vkinek vmit". I've never seen it before and wondered how it would be used? Is it the same as "Köszönöm"? Thanks!

1 year ago

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https://www.duolingo.com/fenyesd

Actually, the correct translation for "thank you" is köszönöm or köszi (thanks). The sentence "Megköszön v(ala)kinek v(ala)mit means "Thank someone for something", more precisely "She/He says thanks someone for something".

1 year ago

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Ah ok köszi! Wonder why it was included as a translation?

1 year ago

https://www.duolingo.com/fenyesd

Szívesen! I really don't know, maybe it is just an explanation.

1 year ago

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Usually you learn the verbs only in the stemm form without anything more.

It is recommended to learn the verbs with these pronouns together, because the meanings can be different with other pronouns.

köszönni valakit = to great someone

köszönni valakinek valamit = to say thanks so someone for something

Another example:

hívni valakit = to call someone ("Hívtam őt." = "I called him/her.")

hívni valakinek valamit = to name someone as something ( "Engem Andrásnak hívnak" = My name is Andreas (word by word: They call me Andreas.)

1 year ago

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Great explanation but let me give a small clarification: "köszönni valakit" is not a correct Hungarian sentence. There are two possibilities: "köszönteni valakit" means "to great someone" or "köszönni valamit" means "to say thanks for something"

1 year ago

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Ah ok. I didn't really understand though

"Usually you learn the verbs only in the stemm form without anything more."

Do you mean on Duolingo? And what are stem forms?

That's interesting how the meaning changes with different pronouns. How do you recommend learning the pronouns with the verbs? Does Duolingo do that quite poorly?

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What I meant with the stemm form is the 3rd person singular indefinite of the hungarian verbs, where you ad in most cases "-ni" to build the infinitive form.

áll => állni; fog => fogni; fut => futni; ér => érni

Well, Duolingo gives you a lot of sentences, where you learn the correct use of the verb, like children do when they learn to speak :-) And I can not remember now, that Duolingo just askes for a single verb.

In general those changes of the meanings by adding a certain verb exists in english as well. Think about verbs like to get, to put, to set etc. By adding another word like "to", "along", "away", "by" you modify the meaning of the verb.

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