"I am a high school student."


June 15, 2017

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Why is there no 学 here?


Because it's an abbreviation. The full term for high school is 高等学校 (こうとうがっこう), but this is often shortened to 高校 (こうこう)


I meant for 学生. Up until now, we've used the term 学生 to mean student. Now they shortened it to 生. When is it ok to shorten 学生 to 生?


Technically, it is shortened in the other expressions, we've learned here, too.

小学 + 学生 = 小学生

中学 + 学生 = 中学生

大学 + 学生 = 大学生

In all those cases, 学生 is shortened to 生. It's just that there are not two 学 kanji here since the short form 高校 has no 学 kanji. But the 学 kanji of 学生 is removed again.

So it's the same pattern:

高校 + 学生 = 高校生


This case -high school- and when talking about your/someone's year (i.e. 一年生、二年生: first year student/freshman, second year student/sophomore). Those are the exceptions.


Why isn't ごうごうたちですacceptable?


Because it means "we are highschool students" instead of "I am a highschool student". たち makes the difference.


Unless you're the Queen.


I don't think there's a royal "we" in Japanese... and if there is, I doubt it involves "たち".


Just adding to Ponjo's comment, 高校 ("high school") is pronounced こうこう, with a "k", not ごうごう.


Specially because it's 高校(こうこう), not ごうごう.


Considering that 高校 (こうこう) is the abbreviation of 高等学校 (こうとうがっこう), why isn't 高等学生 (こうとうがくせい) correct?


Is there a reason why the Hiragana and Kanji systems can be used in the same sentence?


That is common practice in Japanese. By mixing hiragana, kanji and katakana, parsing a sentence becomes much easier. This is because kanji can convey a lot of meaning in a small space, hiragana has the job of indicating grammatical tense and roles, and katakana for indicating loan words.

For example, compare the following:

  • ジョンさんは高校生です。(mixed writing)
  • じょんさんはこうこうせいです。(all hiragana)

Once you're familiar with kanji (and radicals), you can look at 高校生 and immediately associate the characters with meaning, whereas in the all hiragana version, you first have to read the whole thing and try to determine where all the different words start and finish so you don't immediately get that こうこうせい means "high (高) school (校) student (生)".


Isn't there any indication in hiragana for separate words like spacing?


Nope. Not looking forward to learning to read Japanese.


shrugs The closest thing I have found to this english concept in japanese is the indicators for a word to show its purpose. (Think Ni, wo, wa, he, ga and others I have yet to discover.) (Please excuse the lack of japanese characters as I dont have access to them atm lol)


Shouldn't 私は高校学生です be accepted as well?


「高校学生」doesn't exist in Japanese.

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