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"高校生たち"
Translation:High school students
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Japanese doesn't usually distinguish between plural and singular nouns; usually you can get these from context. However, 'tachi' puts a little more clarity therein, it kinda means '-and company'. Like you get 「ねこたち」(neko tachi) which is more or less like 'a cat and company'. This たち doesnt necessarily require it to be the same object, either. For example you could say 「犬たち」and mean 'a dog and whatever is with it'. Context as always
If they dont usually distinguish between plural and singular nouns, is there ever a time when using "tachi" is incorrect?
You can distinguish between ごご and ごうごう by how long the vowels are held when spoken. ごうごう consists of longer vowels.
Why is the 学 kanji used in elementary/middle school and university but not in high school?
It is used too. Kōtōgakko(高等学校) means highschool, but is shortened to kōkō(高校).
等 means "class/rank/grade/quality"
高等学校 "high class, high grade school"
中等学校 does exist, meaning "secondary school", it is a school where middle and high are integrated so it is 6 years of schooling rather than 3
The difference in abbreviations most likely largely has to do with the concept of 高等学校 being established later than the others. The first two schools are mandatory education, your primary learning and your secondary learning; whereas high school is optional. A school only a few select people attend would be considered "high-class".
What is the literal translation of koukou? From other comment sections I know elementary school is literally little school, middle school is middle school and college is big school. This one however does not have school in it
Literally: high school. The other schools you mention are actually the ones that don't have 'school' in them, but 'study/learn'. :)
I read your comment and finally understood the meaning of that question. '高校' is an abbreviation for '高等学校'. We use almost '高校' in daily conversation. '高等学校' is used to official document. The resume etc. Therefore '小学校', '中学校' and '高等学校' are including the word '学校'. Or the letter '校' already means school.
http://jisho.org/search/%E6%A0%A1
But '大学' is not include '校'. '大学' is '大学' alone.
how to read 高等学校（こうとうがっこう） 大学（だいがく）
I can not know whether it is ’singular’ or ’plural’ by the word '高校生' alone. "高校生たち" have the meaning of "students" not "a student" by using "たち".
The popup when I click たら says it means "stand" or "stand up." Ard those relevant here?
You mean たち, and no, that's not relevant here. That would be 立ち, a conjugation of the verb 立つ "to stand". The たち that is used in this sentence is 達.
It can also mean to make something plural, when you look at it meaning ''Stand'' or ''stand up'' you are looking at a kanji.
They really should do something to eliminate the irrelevant definitions until they're needed in future lessons. I'm just going by contextual Clues but a lot of people are getting mixed up by them. I understand that this app is doing the best it can and it's only has Japanese on the app and not online but a lot of people need more definition with these types of languages
If by "not online" you refer to the webclient, this is no longer correct. Japanese has been available on the webclient (albeit still in beta) since about the start of November 2017. :)
The touch-over translation help for this indicates たちmeans "stand up" or "stand" rather than the implication of more than one presence
There is the word '立(た)つ' is 'stand up' or 'stand'. It has some different forms because a verb. There is the form similar to 'たち'. But it is no relation to '達（たち）'.
Yeah, "stand" is also mentioned (and explained above). The top option when I hover over たち says "students" though.
Is it pronounced こうこう or ごうごう？ Duo taught it to me as こうこう when showing me the symbol, but I keep seeing people saying ごうごう. Thanks in adcance for the help.
Hiragana spelling is 'こうこう'. Romaji spelling is 'koukou'. I can not write pronunciation well. maybe 'こーこー' as 'koko'.
Okay cool, so it is pronounced with a K sound. Thank-you very much! :D
I cant get the character up on my phone but why does the third character pmfet pronounced 'sei' when tapping it does not sound like that
I know it's been forever since you've asked but in case anyone else is wondering too: Kanji can be read in multiple ways, with On readings and Kun readings. By themselves they take Kun readings. In a string of kanji to make up a new word they use their On readings, that's the "sei", but since you click on the individual kanji Duo reads it as the Kun reading of what this kanji sounds like when it stands alone, not the sound it makes in the context of the full word.
I put university student for this one without even thinking. In Chinese a 高校(high school) would be a university, it's equivalent to 大学(big school). While high scools are called 高等中学/高中(literally high middle school).
I'm not sure exactly how the education system works in comparison to english education but I think that secondary school (google tells me they are equivilant) should be acceptable. Cause I have no clue how american education works :P
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Being unversed in the American school system this whole section on education is a bit of a mystery. But I suppose you have to go with something ...
I don't understand that kanji. Because there is the same syllable included like koukou but there is 2 different kanji. Is it possible to include same kanji in one word?
What is the use of "生" here? Sometimes people use it for this, and then not, can someone break down the sentence or explain me? Thank you in advance.
is this prefix specific to high school, or will it appear again in other contexts?
