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[WIU] Weekly Incubator Update: 2017, Week 24.

Note: Data retrieved on 2017/06/18 at 14:25 (UTC).

I. Phase 1 Courses

I.A. Transfers

  • Exits (Courses reaching BETA Phase): Italian from Portuguese.
  • Entries (Courses entering the Incubator): None.

I.B. Completion Summary

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(A) This week's value automatically generated from Duolingo's statistics.
(S) This week's value self-reported by the team of volunteers working on the course.

II. Latest News from Course Volunteers (All Phases)

Course "Korean from English" (Phase 1)

By niskigwun on 2017/06/18 (full text here)

18 June 2017

We've been noticing a number of questions in the discussion boards, so here's the answer. No, it'...

Course "Italian from Portuguese" (Phase 2)

By NanaAndrad on 2017/06/13 (full text here)

O curso saiu!!!!!

Ehhh Ciao a tutti!!!!!

Finalmente o curso saiu!! Eu e Piero estamos muito felizes, tenho cert...

Course "Esperanto from Portuguese" (Phase 1)

By librulino on 2017/06/13

Quase 20%!

Estamos quase lá! Atualmente, completamos 18% do curso. Quando chegarmos aos 20% poderemos chamar mais um ou dois colaboradores. Assim, com mais gente na equipe, o progresso vai ser mais rápido. Hura!

Course "Czech from English" (Phase 1)

By nueby on 2017/06/09 (full text here)


For those who have been waiting patiently for us to get it done, here are links to two resources ...

III. Previous Weekly Incubator Updates

See this index of WIUs.

June 18, 2017



I'm so happy to see the boost of the Korean team during last weeks. Such a good work. Also Indonesian is starting to grow steadily. But, of course, Czech is the king of steadiness ;)

(Btw, for those who know about these things: do you think that Czech is easier than Polish?)


As a fellow Czech once said:

If you want to learn a Slavic language, let your heart make the choice. Your brain will hate you anyway.

The two you are considering are especially close.


I doubt that Czech is easier than Polish as the grammar and vocabulary are quite similar.


I've heard it said a lot that Polish one of the hardest if not the hardest Slavic language. Even a Polish guy I worked with said to me once that while he was at school, some of the things about it he was like 'why, why is it like this' XD

I think it might be that is the conservative nature of the language that adds an extra layer of difficulty. Some languages are pretty relaxed and content to change or simplify, and some languages are not, and they stay more nuanced and ordered on a basic fundamental level. The underlying rules may be easy to understand when you actually grasp them, but nevertheless they are deeply terrifying to learn in the beginning :). Polish is a bit like that, it seems like it is the 'Icelandic' of Slavic languages, it has kept a lot of features that other ones have lost over time.

That is why it is pretty much the antithesis to English... English is a really lazy language at heart, deep down no one really cares about how well it is spoken, as long as you can make yourself understood you can just throw words about willy nilly, even if your grammar is terrible, the language is resilient enough for it to make no practical difference. We've lost pretty much all the features of our language that once connected it so obviously to German and we don't seem to care, except for the sad fact that if we had been more conservative ourselves, we wouldn't have nearly as much of a hard time learning languages with complex, nuanced grammar, like Polish :)

You can't lose by learning any Slavic language though really. Forget trying to calculate the best option with reason, just pick the one that you know someone who speaks it.


I've heard it said a lot that Polish one of the hardest if not the hardest Slavic language.

Well, rather than pick up Czech just because of such sweeping subjective comments, I'd read up. The WRF thread I linked in my other post has some neat perspectives on the relative difficulty of Slavic languages for English and Romance speakers. Out of the West Slavic group (Czech, Polish, and Slovak), only Slovak has half a reason to stick out because it has only six cases rather than seven (having dropped the vocative) and a few other grammar simplifications (plural gender verb agreement in the past tense comes to mind). If one already knows enough Russian or even Ukrainian, Polish could be relatively easier to pick up than Czech or Slovak for them. But if someone were dead set on a West Slavic with no previous exposure to any Slavic languages, I'd go with whichever sounds best to my ear. I personally find Slovak (not an option here even "soon") the most ear-pleasing of the three, but YMMV.


Well, sweeping subjective comments which have been told to me by Polish people, so I guess if I had lots of Czech friends, they might say the same thing about Czech :P

Anyway, I'll be in a better position to judge after I have gone through the Czech course, which will hopefully be here soon...


If you make me angry, it won't :P


Then I shall say no more, I wasn't aiming to ruffle any feathers. I was only trying to turn the original posters question around, if you see I basically ended with 'pick the one that you can actually use'

I simply have the affliction where I have to talk in circles before I get to the point.

I shall be doing the course though. Oh yes, I shall. I will enjoy it very much.


Ituguese yay! :-D


Boa! Parabéns, equipa Português-Italiano!


Thank you so much to the Korean team for all their hard work!!! :D

[deactivated user]

    You're welcome. We are excited to bring an amazing course to you guys soon!


    So when the Korean course says they are upgrading their tree. Does that mean they are getting the same upgrade Japanese got for -their- tree? As in, flashcards built into the tree to help teach Kana/Hangul? I think it would be awesome if that were the case

    [deactivated user]

      Yes and no


      Will the course be release on iOS first? (If you have such information from "staff")


      那很棒! :")

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