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Irish audio missing in some lessons

Since the update, some of the sentences with an audio icon have no sound. The sound works perfectly on others. Is anyone else having this problem?

June 18, 2017

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/SatharnPHL
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I hadn't really noticed, because I have auto-play on, and audio either plays or it doesn't, but I just did a strengthening lesson to see if I could replicate the problem, and it seems to me that all of the "Irish to English" translations exercises have a speaker icon, whether there is audio available or not, and all of the English to Irish exercises don't (obviously, though if you open the discussion for an English to Irish exercise, where there is audio available for the Irish translation, you can play the Irish audio there, even though it is an English to Irish exercise).

So it looks as though Duolingo is just using a single set of templates during the lessons, with audio icons for the "language you are learning", and no audio icons for the "language you are learning from", and "turtle" icons for "Type what you hear" exercises, even though "turtle-mode" is only available for TTS languages, and isn't available for recorded languages like Irish. There is no customization for languages like Irish, that only have limited audio available, there is no list of exercises that should display the audio icon, it's on for all exercises in the language being learned. When you open the discussion for a particular exercise, the icon will only display if there is audio available for that particular exercise (whether it is an Irish to English exercise, or an English to Irish exercise).

If you have autoplay on, it's not really that big a deal - if the audio doesn't play automatically, there isn't any audio for that exercise, which is nothing to do with the recent web upgrade, it's just a "feature" of the Irish course. If you have disabled autoplay, and only click on the icon when you want to hear the audio, it's probably a bit more frustrating.

June 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Windrammer

No technical difficulties. They recorded a real person speaking the sentences (tremendous amound of work), and therefore not all of the sentences will have audio. Other courses like the Russian or Spanish one use virtual voice systems to generate audio which can easily be applied to all sentences in the course since, you know, it's generated and not a lot of work to sort out compared to recording a person.

June 18, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Shari72

These are places where there was audio and there is still the icon but nothing works with it. I'm hoping that they're updating it. This just happened when they went to the version that now shows an ad on the side.

June 18, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

The set of exercises for which recordings were made the first time around is not identical to the set of exercises for which recordings were made the second time around; they’re mostly the same, but some exercises had recordings only in the first set, and some exercises have recordings only in the second set. The problem is that the audio icons are still shown in discussions for exercises which had recordings the first time around, but don’t have them now; this was even the case before the new site with advertising was released. I doubt that they’re planning on adding more recordings, at least before the release of the revised skill tree (“Tree 2.0”).

June 19, 2017

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I think it's simpler than that - with the new update, Duolingo shows a speaker icon for all "Irish to English" exercises, whether they have audio or not, and shows the turtle icon for all "Type what you hear" exercises, even though slow playback isn't an option for the Irish audio.

June 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/sparrowhawk28

I've got issues in that the audio isn't playing for some of the exercises, which means I can't complete a lesson because I can't hear anything! As a work around I can hit 'skip' copy the answer and paste it in when it comes up again but I'm not exactly learning it and it's not very good. On my tablet I can turn audio exercises off but I can't see how to do this on the PC. I'm doing quite a few languages and it's only Irish where I've noticed this issue.

September 16, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Gerardd88

This is quite a big problem with this course. I've never seen anything like that in all other courses. A huge part of sentences don't have any audio. But reading all the comments under sentences from people complaining that the old audio was "reading as in English", "completely off" or "horrible", I guess it's better without the audio.

June 18, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/scilling

I did the course without the audio when the first set of recordings were in place. When the second set was released, I turned on the audio. This course is now better with the current audio.

June 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Joe733089

Yes Shari I had that problem the other night. Hopefully it is just an update that will be corrected soon.

June 19, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/profile/bemk92

It's just an issue with the new site. You might also notice that if you press enter too quickly after handing in the result, the reward or punishment sound no longer fully plays either. Then there's also the turtle button in some assignments which does nothing.

The reason for this (and this was fine with the old site) is that there is no good text to speech system that's compatible with Duolingos infrastructure. Since Irish is a community provided language, the chance of Duo adding that support is next to nothing, so the course developers had to hire a voice actor to do the audio.

Hiring people is expensive though, so they essentially paid just enough to have every word included in the audio somewhere once. This means that quite a few sentences don't have audio.

The turtle button is for slow pronunciation, which either requires more recording, or text to speech being able to run a bit slower, which again takes a lot of money.

The ding sound at the end being cut short if you press enter to quickly is probably just the sound element being reloaded and the old one being discarded a bit too quickly. Maybe they'll fix it later, or maybe this is their way of encouraging us to actually look at the corrections.

June 19, 2017
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