https://www.duolingo.com/Suzune-chan

Getting discouraged

I find I get so discouraged when you get to a new lesson and it is on verbs or adjectives, where completing the lesson relies on you to learn fifty or so words. I find it so hard to keep them all straight and it seems so frustrating. Does anyone have any advice. Also, I used to be able to correct my mistakes and now I can not longer do that. Getting them completely wrong for conjugation mistakes or the wrong gender on an adjective is proving to only make me more frustrated.

March 23, 2014

30 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/DaleFavier

Oh, I hear that! I do have advice: back up, slow down, review, and don't be too proud to use the hover hints. These days I do a single sub-lesson over and over until I get the lingot without using any hints. Sometimes that means I just work on one sub-lesson for a couple days. It takes a while for new words to soak in: not be able to remember them is frustrating -- especially when you know damn well you just saw it twenty seconds ago -- but it doesn't mean you're not learning. Every time you go over it you're more likely to remember it next time.

March 23, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Alternia

If you have google chrome, you can download this extension called Duolingo vocabulary. And you can use it to quiz yourself and help you learn the words. Repeating the lessons helps a lot too.

March 23, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Knoxienne

I've failed certain lessons 10 or 20 times in a row. I'll have a great, awesome, easy stretch of language highway, and then I'll hit a plateau and it takes forever to get over it. I just go back to the basics and work back up, realizing that just getting the basics of the language drummed into my brain will help me build upon it and tackle those harder areas. Take breaks and exercise, participate in some other hobbies, take a walk, spend time with friends out for a meal or a movie. Then try it again.

March 23, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/MultiLinguAlex

I fell ya. I'm blessed with a very bad memory and there are some words which I have to look up 30 times and I still do not know them (this extreme example doesn't happen that often, though, but I have to repeat words a significant much more than the average learner).

Learning all the verbs, adjectives and adverbs can be tough. My advice: Do something different in the mean time, do another exercise, repeat older lessons on Duolingo, watch a French movie or stuff like this. But force you to do at least one lesson every day.

Getting discouraged from time to time is totally normal and human. Have a look at my streak and even I kept my learning process at a very low from time to time and I climbed up a third of the French tree, but I successfully accomplished some of those verb / adjectives / adverb lessons and you can do it as well!

March 23, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/SourireCache

When I feel like that I just take a small break from Duo and do more interesting and fun activities to practice things I've already learned so far - outside of the lessons in DL, like listening to music, watching movies, or chatting with friends that can help you as you learn and apply more (but with FUN!). I fine that often helps combat the discouragement of feeling like you're getting nowhere. And besides, sometimes things stick best at a turtle's pace so try not to feel as if you need to learn tons within a day. It realistically takes years before truly being able to know a language well enough to speak and understand properly. Anyway, I hope this helps you and in a figurative sense, just hang on and enjoy the ride! :]

March 23, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/iElodin

Sometimes, we need to miss to learn more. Stand up and fight until you learn! Good luck :D

March 23, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Josh_Perez

I find myself in a very similar situation, don't feel bad though sometimes I'm happily "stuck" on a set of 3 sub-lessons for days, even if I can sometimes pass them with full hearts I won't move on until it's almost second nature to me and I don't have to think much about the sentences. Learn at your own pace and only move on when you're truly comfortable. Good luck and most of all have fun!

March 23, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/jdberry300

There was one particularly impossible unit where I finally just copied and pasted all the answers into a separate notepad and then copied them back in when called for. Once I got past that section, I was fine again. Sometimes, you're just not ready for the concepts or they're just not clear enough (and some sentences are really "iffy"), so why bang your head against the wall repeatedly? You can always go back to any particular section. And if you do an overall, general skills test you will see these problem areas again but they will feel more manageable.

March 23, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/moogy

Take notes as you're doing the lessons - note your correct answers as well as your wrong ones. Try to understand your mistakes before going on to the next question ,sometimes it's a typo but others it's a misunderstanding. If you still cannot understand part of a sentence try searching that part in French wikipaedia or on a French newspaper as sometimes the same phrase in a different sentence or context may be easier to understand. Slow down - a good 15 minutes will be more useful than a hasty five minutes. If you've made it to level 13 then you've proved you've got the ability to go all the way to the end so don't give up now !!!

Good luck and keep trying !!

March 23, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/FrenchAddict7

Don't worry; I feel the same way :)

March 23, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/SadieShay

Keep going!! Don't give up, and take time to review the basics. French is very fun, and just look at how much you have learned!! It truly is amazing. When you get discouraged, take a deep breath, and think how cool this really is. (:

March 23, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Suzune-chan

Thank you very much everyone for the support. It means a lot of to me. I will take many of your suggestions.

March 24, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/SongbirdSandra

Use Anki online flashcards to memorize vocabulary (including the never-ending verbs).
Anki has saved my life and allowed me to keep up with it all.
http://ankisrs.net/

For verbs, I write the infinitive and all conjugations on one side of the card, then, the definition on the back side.

Avoir
J'ai     Nous avons
Tu as  Vous avez
Il a       Ils ont

Of course, you will need to set aside a bit of time to figure out how to use Anki. If you get stuck, just ask here! :-)

March 24, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Suzune-chan

Thank you very much, I will try this program.

Do you know if there is any way to get a list of the words I already know?

March 24, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/SongbirdSandra

Yes; click on a skill (Adjectives, for example). The individual lessons for that skill will be listed with the new words they contain.

March 24, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/AllyCat02

Maybe you should take breaks when you get frustrated and come back later. That way you can go and calm down and think about something else, then when your calm you can go and try again.

March 24, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/pont

Lots of good advice here, but I'd just like to add that you'll never see anywhere near fifty new words in a lesson! A whole Duolingo tree is roughly 2000 words in around 70 skills, with (at a guesstimate) an average of maybe 5 lessons per skill. So on average you're looking at around 6 new words per lesson -- some might have a few more, but it will never be anywhere near 50 :-).

March 23, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/helenvee

I think the lesson Suzune-chan referred to are those with a general heading like as Adjectives 1 and not the individual sub-lessons within them . These certainly can be 50 or more words long and I agree that they can be demoralisingly long. I feel sometimes as if I've been stuck on one aspect forever. I try to break the monotony by doing some lessons from other sections if they are unlocked or I go back and redo some of my weaker lessons. Personally, I'd prefer to have them broken down into smaller segments because I think they would sink in and be remembered better.

March 23, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/pont

Ah, perhaps just a terminological misunderstanding then... I think that in Duolingo terminology, a "lesson" is a single set of 20 questions and a "skill" is a themed unit made up of lessons, such as "Animals" or "Abstract Objects 1". It's true that there's the occasional monster skill with up to 10 lessons, and perhaps this can look a little forbidding -- but each lesson can be done individually, and there's no reason to try to finish a 10-lesson skill as quickly as a 2-lesson skill. As DaleFavier and others have said, it's best simply to go at a slow, comfortable pace and accept that it will take some time to get through the whole skill.

March 23, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Pippa2009

Go here: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/1996462 Do what he says. You will have the original vocabulary feature back. You will have every word in the lesson, gender, number, conjugations and sentences for the all important word order and context. Preview before the lesson. Review after the lesson. Reinforce with the exercises. Give the poster a lingot.

March 25, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Suzune-chan

Thank you very much for this information!

March 25, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/KTKee-EnglishEng

You know the tip of thinking of a colourful associated image to remember a word? You can make the image suitably pink or feminine to remember gender.

March 24, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/NicoleJohnson5

Aw, don't get discouraged. I know it can be difficult to learn a new language but keep at it. Sometimes it helps to take a step back and not try to do the lesson all at once. Perhaps review over the vocabulary, and how adjectives are used in French. Plus if you are having trouble with conjugating verbs there is plenty of sites on the web that can help you. For example, www.french.about.com is a good site.

March 24, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Leli3

I have been where you are a lot! : ) It's completely ok. What I did was slowed down and went back over everything that I learned previously. I simply use the "Practice Weak Skills" section on the app. I do that pretty much everyday to understand things better and keep what I learned fresh on my mind. You'll be fine!

March 24, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/artst
  1. Don't give up! 2. Usually frustration happens just before the breakthrough. 3. Be gentle with yourself; it's ok to make mistakes.
March 25, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/abodi

I'm there at the moment with the questions lessons of Spanish. I just cannot keep them straight. I'm sure i'm going to need to write them down to memorize them.

March 26, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Pippa2009

Go here: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/1996462 and follow the poster's instructions for installation. This will give you the original vocabulary feature back.

Then go here: https://www.duolingo.com/comment/2314547 and follow that poster's installation instructions. This will give you a wonderful little script which shows you which questions in the lesson you got right and which ones you got wrong.

Between these two wonderful DL user-written scripts you can preview, review, remediate and reinforce whatever you need from any lesson.

March 26, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/PERCE_NEIGE

You should learn the conjugations prior to the lesson. What are the conjugations where you have some troubles? Don't be discouraged, there's always a mean to learn. Be more specific please.

March 26, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/Suzune-chan

French has many verbs that do not follow verb conjugation rules or irregular verbs, for example like voir which is voyons in the nous form. Reflexive were not introduced that way so I have trouble remembering which ones are reflexive as well. So I feel overwhelmed when I am looking at a second of verbs or adjectives and I see it is broken into ten parts...

March 26, 2014

https://www.duolingo.com/PERCE_NEIGE

There's a lot of irregular verbs in English too, I struggled to learn them. Just make a list and memorize them. I think I will make a discussion about it, you gave me an idea. For reflexive verbs, like in Spanish, memorise them with the reflexive pronoun, by example, "se laver". Don't feel overwhelmed, you need to be more organized, and we can help you. I'm going to make the discussion on verbs, and see and comment if it's helpful or not, if it's not ask for more details or explanations.

March 26, 2014
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