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"Ich sorge für die Getränke "

sorgen means to be concerned about sth \sb . So this questions translates to : I am concerned about the drinks ? This sound so illogical , it doesn't make sense . I believe this sentence translation is I will take care of the drinks , i.e. I will bring them . If the previous translation is true then why not use kümmern from the beginning ?

I know that sorgen is like kümmern , except that sorgen has worry accompanied , so it doesn't make any sense to say "Ich sorge für die Getränke " and the speaker wasn't worried about it .

Hope I clarified my question :) Thanks in Advance for your highly appreciated Help

June 20, 2017

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https://www.duolingo.com/MortiBiRD

Ich sorge für die Getränke. The person gets the drinks and takes care of them (like keeping them cold or whatever is to do).

Ich sorge MICH um etwas. I am concerned about something. This is reflexive in german. Ich sorge MICH [...].

Ich sorge für die Kinder. I take care of the children. This one is not reflexive.

June 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/MaxBabel

sorgen für etwas can also mean to provide or supply something. So 'Ich sorge für die Getränke' doesn't just mean to look after the drinks after they've been gotten, but to get them in the first place.

June 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/MortiBiRD

"The person gets the drinks and [...]"

I think you missed that I wrote this.

June 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/MaxBabel

No I didn't miss it. I just thought your focus was on looking after the drinks after they had been obtained. 'Ich sorge für die Getränke' works regardless of what happens to them after they've been procured.

June 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/MortiBiRD

Then this lead to a misunderstanding. This are 2 actions and "sorge für die Getränke" can mean either or both. So someone gets the drinks or someone keeps the drinks on a good temperature or someone does both.

June 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/YomnaEssam1

Thanks for your reply MortiBiRD !Now it is a lot better (Y) (Y)

Just one last Question , Is there a difference between saying I sorge für etwas jmdn and Ich sorge mich um etwas jmdn ? ( I mean a difference in meaning )

June 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/MortiBiRD

As long as its not a subordinate clause as object, then yes the reflexive variant uses always um and the other always für.

June 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/YomnaEssam1

I am sorry I am sorry I am sorry , if it's messy here .

  • Is there a difference in meaning between :
  • Ich sorge mich um die Getränke .
  • Ich sorge für die Getränke .
June 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/MortiBiRD

Ich sorge mich um die Getränke. I am worried about the drinks (like you fear that there wont be enough drinks for all people).

Ich sorge für die Getränke. I am providing the drinks (like you pay for them or you get them from a store) OR I am taking care of the drinks (like managing that they dont get messed up at the party).

June 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/YomnaEssam1

So Can I assume that Ich sorge für jdn \etwas = ich kümmere mich um (i.e. to take care )

and Ich sorge mich um = I am concerned about

June 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/MortiBiRD

This is a reply to another post.

I have to correct your constructions.

Ich sorge für etwas oder jemanden. BUT NOT. Ich sorge für jemanden etwas. It has just one object and that object is either etwas or jemand.

Ich sorge mich um etwas oder jemanden. Reflexive and followed by one object.

A similar looking word that has your construction scheme. Ich besorge ihm die Getränke. I am getting/bringing him the drinks. This has 2 objects, so jemanden and etwas. These are to seperate verbs besorgen and sorgen.

Last but not least. Yes, "kümmern um" can be used as synonym for "sorgen für"

June 20, 2017

https://www.duolingo.com/YomnaEssam1

I just forgot to add the slash :( Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanks ! I owe you a life debt XD !

June 20, 2017
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