Very disappointed in Duolingo :/
NOTE: This is just my honest opinion. You can either agree or disagree with it. Everyone has their own point of view.
I'm very disappointed in Duolingo's recent changes. Sure, I like the new layout and everything. But since Immersion got taken away, the site has just been spiraling downward. The Activity tab was taken away, so now we can't talk to our friends the same way. Removing Immersion and Activity has resulted in some people leaving the site. Now Duolingo is trying to make back up for the permanently lost features with Labs and Stories, but we know these will never compare how the site used to be.
I'm aware that Duolingo has a budget and they have to do what's best for the site. But really how much was Immersion and Activity affecting them? The new features don't seem like they're doing anything better than the old ones.
Duolingo, please bring back the features that most users wanted. Immersion and Activity were the main reasons I was here, because no other language learning site had things like those. But now that these features have been removed, Duolingo is starting to be more like any other language learning site.
Also, I really hope the social aspect is brought back soon. When activity was gone, we were still able to post stream messages. That way we could contact our friends if their email notifications were on. But now that's been taken away too! Some of us have no other way to contact people we've known here for years. The recent updates are taking our friends away.
This isn't making me (and I'm sure others too) want to be here anymore.
Never saw Immersion, so I don't know what I missed, the Activity Stream had too much 'social media' aspects and not enough 'language learning' aspects. I don't miss it.
That's true, only a minority actually used it for asking questions about language. if you're going to reach Level 2 and then only use Duo for chatting, then use some other social media website like Facebook or Instagram, NOT Duolingo! Duolingo is for language learning, not social media.
but then again, if you actually did want to ask someone directly a question about language, then it would be very useful.
I agree with you on some level about Activity being used as more of a 'social media' than a 'language learning' one. It really encouraged spam too. However I think most users (as far as I could see) were using it constructively. It really helped when we wanted to do things such as group meetings without clogging the forums.
You can use any text and translate it. It is not like Immersion but it helps too. But I prefer bilingual translation in the beginning of a new language and I do it on paper. Immersion was not as comprehensive as Stories is. It was only useful to learn new vocabulary and read. But I prefer to read literature in the target language instead. Instead of Activity I use HelloTalk which I prefer although it is no replacement or anything. Duolingo is definitely going a great way and improving. It doesn't mean I didn't like Immersion.
Luis said many times that Activity will be replaced with something similiar and only a very small amount of people used immersion.
More than having a relatively small number of users, it was legal battle waiting to happen. People from the EU were using it and they weren't supposed to. And others were uploading copyright material, which they also weren't supposed to. I don't know why they mentioned the numbers instead of the legal liability that could have wiped Duo off the map if they had kept going with it under those circumstances.
I think the main reason why Immersion had such a small amount of users was because it wasn't on the mobile platform, and most of Duolingo's users were on the mobile platform.
Another reason for the relatively small number of users is that those were the advanced ones. Immersion was for them a way to continue using this website after both the normal and the reversed trees were finished.
Thank you. You are adding a very thoughtful and interesting opinion to the discussion once again.
I totally understand how you feel, I dearly loved the activity streams. However, I know that Duolingo is not my website so they should have the freedom to do what they like. :)
Streams and activity were great, but like MikeNolan6 said, they had too much "social media" aspects and not enough "language learning" aspects. i.e. too much chatting going on and not enough language discussions.
I hardly ever used activity streams for "chatting." Only if I had a question or such for someone. However, I can still live without it.:)
I really miss the flash cards - the random aspect helped me to keep my vocabulary intact. The tiny cards are ok, but they don't provide the same opportunities for maintaining knowledge that the quick random flash card exercise did. Also: I really enjoyed testing myself with the progress quiz you could complete using the lingots - I am disappointed that this is no longer available - any chance it might be put back on the site? The labs stories are just too advanced from where I'm at right now and there doesn't seem to be a way to get stories which include primarily the words I've learned to date - am I missing something?
Exactly! At least the lingot store still has Timed Practice and Bonus Skills...
Yh as everyone is saying immersion was only ever used by a really small percentage of people (0.05 i think i saw someone say) and when I used there was always people who would 'translate' things just by putting a bunch of random letters so they got Xp there was also always a ton of people arguing and fighting on there so it wasn't really a good place and i think it always made the experience of this worse for me. As for the activity streams i have been told that they were incredibly difficult to keep running and had be taken off for coding reasons but will soon be replaced with some sustainable
I am new here and sorry to seem like a dumb bum but what was
I think that the
Activity Button should be brought back it seems like a good way to interact with ought making forum posts
Immersion used to be a part of the site that allowed you and (almost) everyone else to translate documents and what not either as a team or individually. The reason most people like it was because it gave you something to do with all that you learned from the lessons, but even better than that, Immersion gave you exposure to real documents that would also include words you could learn.
So you could translate a document in french from wikipedia and translate it into english?
I cannot explain how helpful immersion was when it still existed and I feel sorry for anyone who didn't have the chance to use it. I've found other resources to suffice, but they're just not the same. I'm neutral with the activity being removed because I feel it was too distracting from the language learning aspect, however, I could actually ask people personal questions about a specific thing on a language instead of always asking in the discussions. You could really see people's personality through the streams, so that is something I will miss. I miss my Duo Fam quite dearly... I do understand why Luis did the things he did and I support him on the upcoming features. Although, I agree with you that it won't be the same. Who knows, it could be better!
that's what I'm complaining about. They were the only things I thought the lingot were any good for!
Tired of repeating the same basic lesson 4 times in a row, so I am saying good-bye and thanks for the memory. Gene Speyrer
Why are you repeating it? Are you not absorbing the information, or are you not sure how to move forward to the next lesson? And, by lesson do you mean the skill Basics 1 (or whatever the first skill is named)? Once completing all of the lessons in the skill Basics 1 (etc.), the next skill should open. But, if you click "Strengthen", you will just review the same skill. You need to go back to the Home tab and click on the next skill to continue.