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"The train station is near here."
Translation:駅はここから近いです。
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Is "koko kara" really nessecary? I usually understand "near" in english is a deixis fixed on myself and only on others if explicitely said so. Would be surprised if it is not the same in japanese
This sentence is written as a response to the question 'Where is the station?'. The current location needs to be taken into account as the explanatory starting line 'from where' you need to go. Otherwise in your take, the only necessary sentence would be 駅は近いです.
This is weird to me also. The literal translation looks like "here from near" which seems unnecessary +1 for an answer.
The translation is "near (from) here". So "near here" isn't all that strange.
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2020.4.24 ここから or こっこから is unnecessary.
It assumes you are saying it from your current location
It's the cascading emphasis rule of Japanese, the earlier you put a topic/subject in the sentence the more you stress that the rest of the sentence entails something about it. In this case it just purely fits the English order, but it's always dicey to put the topic marker (は) further in a sentence unless it's a phrasal denotion.
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I've heard locals speaking entire sentences and using the topic along with は at the very end (after the verb) Is that what phrasal denotion is ?
It's common in speech when the speaker realises the topic might not be clear. It's basically a supplementary sentence.
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I believe bernhard means, when は marks (or denotes) a complex phrase as the topic, then the は might end up near the end of the sentence because the phrase takes up most of the space.
Is there a good reason it doesn't accept "koko wa eki" instead of "eki wa koko"? It seems equivalent to me. If the train station is near to here then here is also near to the train station. Or am I missing something?
The new translation would be "Here is near the train station". Although it conveys the same information, it emphasizes it differently.
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Duo is pretty consistent about translating the subject marked by は or が into the English subject and vice versa. So whatever comes before the verb in English should get the は.
Would it be grammatically correct/equivalent to say 駅はここまで近いです (The station is near to here)? Or does the から imply a direction of motion too?
I made it as Koko kara eki ha chikai desu and it markes it as corrext. Is that ok?
It seems train stain 'eki' is the subject and not here 'koko kara' so that's why it goes first
Maybe I'm really tired, but can someone explain how this all fits grammatically?
Station is, here from, near?
You're thinking on a wrong way.. it would be better to think as "Station, from here, is near". Don't forget that the sintatic order in Japanese is very different from English. Try to understand it from the particles instead to simply translate them..
電車の駅、but is a little redundant, people usually just say 駅 for "train station"
I'm sure in another lesson near here is given as "ここの近くです", but it's not accepted here?
I've been studying Japanese for some time and can affirm that から isn't really that mandatory in this context. It's kinda redundant and unnatural to me.
Pretty sure you can never follow の with an -い adjective, it has to be in ーく form, as an adverbial noun. From what I've seen anyway. But it doesn't accept ここの近くです (or だ) either, despite it being a common way to say "near here".
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2020.8.5
Let's just break down your sentence with 駅から removed, and I think you will see why.
ここは近いです。
I just can't get the words order correctly with these sentences. No idea what rules are at work here.
Seems I tried the same thing previously, it looks a bit odd though. Also the word is "incorrect".
I said B is near A instead of A is near B, then it counts wrong. Very unflexible
