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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaiirapetjan

Duolingo needs some social aspects

With Immersion and the Activity stream gone, I don't use Duolingo any longer. I would come back if I needed to learn the basics of a language, but right now I am concentrating on perfecting those that I already know. Immersion was good for this, and I loved the social aspect it gave. At the moment I am vacationing in Italy and Spain, and I'd love to meet some of the people I've worked with in immersion. But sadly, one cannot even post on their stream anymore. When I was wild with Duolingo, I also contributed a lot to the discussions. I was able to help many people with their Italian, as I am really familiar with the grammar (and from the point of view of someone who has had to learn it). I see on my leaderboard that a lot of my high-achieving friends also no longer use Duolingo. Has there been an exodus of high-end users (by that I mean people who have a lot of level 25's, and a lot of finished trees and golden trees)? At any rate, I think the Duolingo team should consider finding some way of letting users connect. Thumbs up and/or comment if you agree.

July 4, 2017

54 Comments


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/buck72

These days, it almost feels like learning in a vacuum.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Camilla-danesa

if the vacuum is too heavy I empty the bag


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/w1ndh0ek

Hey Jack, what's up?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/w1ndh0ek

Great to hear that, too bad we can't post on profiles anymore.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jack.Elliot

yes but we can still use the Discussion board


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Camilla-danesa

hello... helllo... helloooo... (like that kind of vacuum, right? Yes I agree!)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jack.Elliot

I am glad that you enjoyed the joke


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Lea.1717

100% agree. The activiy stream was very important. I think there could also be chat rooms by language and topics (and Moderators). That way we could all practice as well as talk about language related topics.

Duolingo needs more interaction.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/PotatoSanta

I haven't been as active here since the changes either. I think may of the users with a lot of 25s were older and more experienced users. With Duolingo becoming more and more aimed at younger people I think older and more advanced users will likely continue to drop off.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaiirapetjan

Exactly. I wish this would be of concern to the staff.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Camilla-danesa

sometimes I look at the list of people who I am following to see which ones are still active, and sadly more than thirty of the most dedicated learners have stopped putting their minds into Duolingo. Often they are not active any longer, or just barely.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/FrenchFireBird

I remember them saying when they removed the activity that they would work on something to replace it. They never gave an estimated time or any continuation on it.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Camilla-danesa

thumbs up, and I miss the social aspect more than anything.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaiirapetjan

Thanks for commenting. You are one of the people I miss. :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Camilla-danesa

what a coincidence, I was just thinking of you today. How are you?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaiirapetjan

Fine, traveling. And you?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Camilla-danesa

fine! will try Russian in the real world in the end of July


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/DovahFerret

Yeah the activity stream thing needs to come back. Or like private messaging. Or both. I really wish we could socialize more on here, have it be kind of like a language-y version of Reddit =)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Jack.Elliot

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I agree

I was warned that this would happen

So I started a blog just so as to stay in contact

The loss of immersion and the stream is hard

but it is a pleasure to do the lessons

to do the lessons was the primary reason for me to use the site

I understand you and totally agree with you

Lovely to see you again

here is a joke that you may enjoy

http://jackelliot.over-blog.com/2017/07/a-witch-joke.html

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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaiirapetjan

Oh Jack I love your poetry! Thank you for showing up here!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Camilla-danesa

:-) hello and thank you for being here Jack


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Visualsilva

I agree. I used to use Duolingo everyday when there was an immersion piece. The immersion piece was the best part of the site. It helped me learn from others and it was nice to know that I was helping to translate the web for others to read. With the immersion piece gone there really isn't a reason to continue practicing the same old Spanish lessons. Why bother? I will use Duolingo again when the Korean lessons are posted, but don't see much reason to keep my 'Spanish tree' updated. Since using Duolingo I spend a lot of time on Lang-8 which I find to be invaluable. It's easy to meet people there to practice with on skype. You'll never learn a new language if you don't actually try and speak it, another reason why I left Duolingo after getting the basics down.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

There are certainly less people around the forums with their full set of level 25s from the general Immersion languages. But it was always easier to find such people in Immersion than in the forums.

Still awaiting the successor to the Activity stream...

If you're interested in something like Russian Immersion, I sent you a message at the CommunityTranslation site.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Bob20020

I never used activity because it was just people congratulating my streak and looking at other's skill learned. But I can see how it affected a lot of people.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Camilla-danesa

I found it really useful because the activity streams also made it possible to see which translations my friends were working on, and I also learned a lot from discussions about translations.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/BeckyCookies

I agree, It's really Aggravating that they Took those Away.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/-Forbidden-

Absolutely agree!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Portofan

This looks close to duolingo's immersion: http://translatihan.com


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaiirapetjan

Interesting! Thanks!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/piguy3

Looks great! I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this to see if Russian shows up!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/lingolangs

Looks promising. Thanks!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Camilla-danesa

this is still a great discussion! And it's still getting upvotes one week later!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Usagiboy7

The Activity stream was slated to be replaced. Unfortunately, it started crashing the website before the replacement was ready to go. Meanwhile, Duolingo had/has other projects scheduled ahead of the replacement. So, we're experiencing a gap between social features.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaiirapetjan

Ciao Usagiboy! Nice hearing from you. Hope the replacement comes soon.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Usagiboy7

Guess what I found on my phone when I loaded up the app for the first time in forever 21 days ago.. Badges!! (I'm pretty sure it was you who first made the suggestion for Duolingo to add learning badges.) They aren't the exact badges I'd like to see in there, but, it is still cool to see them. :)

As for the replacement social aspect, I haven't heard anything new about those. The cyber-bullying has dropped to incredibly low levels without it. I hope Duo is able to somehow maintain the low levels once they add the new social feature. Or, I'm worried it will be scrapped if the bullying starts up again with its release.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaiirapetjan

Badges? Hmm, it must be one of those A/B tests and you are a lucky one. I was suggesting they add a longest streak held badge of some sort, since I lost my streak of nearly 1,000 days. Still mad about that, since it was a glitch and because undoubtedly they heard my cries for help. They just don't care about individual users.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Usagiboy7

I hope they add streak badges for 100 days. Maybe it could just have 1, 2, 3, in the middle of it per 100 days, before you get a badge for 500 days. Then a badge for 1000 days. For now, I think there is a badge for keeping a 7 day or a 10 day streak or something.

Here is a screenshot of the badges on my Android app.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaiirapetjan

Do you like that? What do all those symbols mean?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Usagiboy7

jairapetyan, they are entertaining. But, it is clear that the user audience you and I are in are not the target of these badges. These appear to be aimed at brand new users, and getting them in the habbit of coming back and trying to get all of the badges while they get into the swing of things.

"Warming up" You maintained a streak for 2 days.
"Explosive" You maintained a streak for 7 days.
"Sharpshooter" You completed a lesson without skipping or getting anything wrong.

Stuff like that.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/esperamosamor

Yes, you are completely right. Many high-end users have left Duolingo and the promise to replace the removed features has not been kept. The development at Duolingo makes me sad, because it was once a wonderful platform that was more than a website to learn languages. Nowadays, Duolingo is only a shadow of itself, at least compared to earlier.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pollyperki

Would you mind to add me as a friend to your page in facebook? I want to strengthen my french to adjust with my future job.Thank you.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaiirapetjan

Hi Polly, was that question directed to me or to Visualsilva? I'll gladly add you to FB, just send a request. Lang-8 is a great site, try that too.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pollyperki

Yes it is to you jairapetyan.It will be honour to me to have a dialogue with a pioneer like you.Also,I sent you a request through your page in facebook.I am a conservative man and my page in facebook is full of very nice photos and videos.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaiirapetjan

What's your username?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/hey_arnold1

This was nearly 1 year ago and nothing has changed sigh


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Usagiboy7

Clubs. I'm not saying it's a replacement. However, it is a social aspect that was added after Activity stream was removed.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaiirapetjan

Clubs were only on the phone apps, right? And now I've heard they have done away with them since they implemented the leagues. I don't use DL on my phone. In fact, it is still running a version before they changed over to the crown system, where the strength of skills still decayed!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Pullearner

1 .online safety 2.levels to help learn/help you with 3.things not to talk about 4. You can make "chat pages " and invite friends 5. You can see your favorite languages to chat in and favorite friends to chat with 6. Each language has different levels to chat in (to help get better in chatting). That's my rules for a great chat room you can Add more rules and add more Detail to mine.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaiirapetjan

Sorry people are voting you down, don't take it personally. They are silly, they vote you down because your English is not perfect. We are here to learn, right? I see the value in your comment. Maybe there are other sites that have chat rooms with language levels as you suggest.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/pollyperki

Would you mind to tell us how did you achieve final levels in5 languages?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/jaiirapetjan

Polly, there used to be a task called immersion where you translated internet articles. People voted your translations up if they were good, and you advanced in "levels." At level four and beyond you would earn quite a lot of XP for each sentence translated. For example, 50 XP for a long sentence. It was fun so people would work at it for hours, earning several hundred XP every day. Now that we can only earn XP doing lessons, I think it will be very rare that someone starts from the beginning and ever arrives at level 25. The higher the level, the more XP you need to do to reach it.

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