[HU] könnyű nyelvek | [EN] easy languages | [DE] leicht Sprachen | [ESPERANTO] facila lingvoj
[HU] Tudtok nekem mondani olyan nyelveket, amik ilyen "fonetikus" nyelvek? Tehát nem olyan, mint az angol, hogy minden szónak meg kell jegyezni a kiejtését, hanem pl. mint az eszperantó vagy a német. Ahol úgy kell kiejteni, ahogy le van írva. Köszönöm előre is a segítségeteket.
[EN] Can you tell me languages that are "phonetic" languages? So it's not like English,which the pronunciation of words is to be noted. Something like Esperanto or German. Where to pronounce it as it is written. Thanks in advance for your help.
[GE] Kannst du mir Sprachen sagen, die "phonetische" Sprachen sind? So ist es nicht wie Englisch, was in der Aussprache von Wörtern zu beachten ist. Etwas wie esperanto oder Deutsch. Wo man es ausspricht, wie es geschrieben steht. Vielen Dank im Voraus für Ihre Hilfe.
[ESPERANTO] Ĉu vi povas diri al mi lingvoj, kiuj estas "fonetika" lingvoj? Do ĝi ne estas kiel la angla, kiu en la prononco de vortoj estas esti notita. Io kiel Esperanto aŭ la germana. Kie prononci ĝin kiel ĝi estas skribita. Danke anticipe pro via helpo.
Here are the languages I've finished on Duolingo (+Polish and English) sorted by how phonetic they are (in my opinion). I focused on how much information about the pronunciation you can't usually get from the written word, how hard is it to spell a heard word, and how complex the system is in general.
- Extremely easy: Hungarian > Turkish > Spanish > French > Italian
- Rather easy: German > Dutch > Greek
- Medium: Portuguese > Polish > Swedish
- Hard to extremely hard: Irish > Russian > English > Danish
If someone especially disagrees with the order of some languages here, let me know :D I have to redo some of the older trees with a more regular approach (I wrote why here), so I may have a different impression about them after that (especially Swedish, Danish and Portuguese).
Greek is very easy to learn to read, in my opinion, but not as easy to learn to spell.
Once you learn the symbol-to-sound correspondences, I think it's very easy to read with good pronunciation even if you have no idea what the words mean.
Writing is harder because you often have several ways to spell the same sound, but reading is easy. Even the stress is always marked for you!
And with Italian, you have, if I remember correctly, six vowels but only five letters for them, so you can't distinguish words such as pesca "peach; fishing" or venti "twenty; winds" which are pronounced differently but spelled the same.
So, as Patrick.Phang said? Do I learn Spanish or Italian instead of Russian or Danish?
It's probably good to start with easier languages, but I wouldn't choose a language based only on how hard it is. Especially when it comes to pronunciation and orthography. It's a thing that can be learned quickly if you make some effort. It's better to choose a language you like or one that seems interesting to you. For example Russian is one of my favourite languages, despite its really hard phonetics, and I'm planning to learn it more seriously next year (to a reasonable level).
I was curious to know how difficult Portuguese is for a Polish speaker. Interesting your opinion.
I've never really learned Portugese in-depth. All of these languages, except for French and German, I've only learned to some extent by going through a tree once. So I don't have much experience in that. The last time I learned Portuguese was two years ago when I had very little experience in language learning. That's why I will be redoing the Portuguese tree right after Russian and Dutch which I'm doing now.
I can understand most of written Portuguese pretty easily (same with Italian), even though I've never really learned it beyond basics. It's thanks to the other Romance languages I know. But I think vast majority of the Portuguese vocabulary I know comes from Spanish. Portuguese and Spanish (and other Romance) are probably the easiest languages for me. The only tricky thing with Portuguese is different pronunciation. I have much more trouble understanding spoken Portuguese than I have with Italian, and I don't think I could understand more than random words listening to European Portuguese (I'm more used to Brazilian pronunciation, and it's probably easier).
Portuguese is one of my favourite languages though (I just love the pronunciation!) and it will certainly be one of the first languages I'll learn next when I have more time sometime in the future :)
Oh, I see... About European Portuguese, I do not understand people from Portugal at all, but Portuguese is my native language. Sometimes sounds like a different language. I think the written language that is taught here in Duolingo does not resemble the spoken language, we usually say ''cadê você?" instead of "onde você está?" and "eu o amo" is completely correct, but I usually hear ''eu amo ele''. (ich schreibe es nur ["eu o amo"]... es ist gesprochen für mein Ohr ein bisschen geschwollen) =D
I hope you succeed in learning Portuguese in the future! Best regards!
But these are Slavic languages. Are you sure about that? Is this phonetic languages?
But as I can see, these languages aren't in duolingo. So you didn't help much :|
This is true! But I don't think that, for example, Serbian is an easy language. And since I asked here in the Duolingo, obviously I thought Those languages that are in Duolingo. (This is just I described as an information. I have no bad intent behind it.) I hope you understand as I understand.
You asked for phonetic languages. As far as I know, Croatian/Serbian are very good in this respect: you spell what you hear and you write what you say. That part of those languages is very easy.
(Though they have phonemic tone which is not marked.)
Not like in Russian where the pronunciation of vowels depends on the position of the stress etc.