"Vali azantyssy issi."

Translation:The men are knights.

July 13, 2017

15 Comments
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https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tbbruno

If the adjective could come before OR after the noun, how can we differentiate is this sentence means "The men are knights" or "The knights are men"?


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/fischerfs

They mean the same thing. It doesn't matter which way around with 'to be' in almost any language, because if you switch up the word order it still carries the same meaning. However with almost any other verb you'd need the accusative case to specify which thing is the object of the sentence, although with 'to be' that is not required.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tbbruno

I thought the same, but "The knights are men" was not an accepted answer by Duolingo's system, so I got confused. That being the case, if I happen to stumble upon the same question again, I'll report a problem. Thanks for the explanation! :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Radiolaria

I see that both verbs are in nominative, so probably the word order indicates the subject and the object.

It reminds me of Polish a bit, where you could say: "Mężczyźni (Nom.) są rycerzami (Instr.)", but more common would be "Mężczyźni (Nom.) to rycerze (Nom.)". In the first case changing the word order wouldn't change sense (since the subject is declined), in the second it would.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/mwasson

I agree. This should be taken as a copular form substantially different from the use of issa/issi/etc. with a predicative adjective.


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/921.P1qeihLh3bgq

Because if you want to say "The knights are men" it becomes "Azantyssy vali iksāt". And I will explain how it works.

First, you put the noun or the thing to describe, let's take "Abrā" for example, meaning "Woman", then we take the adjective or another noun that describes the first noun, then the verb at the end. So if we would like to say "The woman is happy" we will say "Abrā kirine issa" and in English it literally goes like "The woman happy is". Whereas, there is no exception to this rule, beside adjectives, you can't say "The happy is woman" because it doesn't make sense. If you studied Latin, the order is the same


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Pampelius

There's no adjective in this sentence


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Emarijacoway

Why is there no sound


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dedalvs

There is now sound!


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/ziev16

"The men are all knights" should have been correct. ..


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/Dedalvs

There's nothing in there that corresponds to "all".


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/tiotiotiolan

Deny had no time for this yet :)


https://www.duolingo.com/profile/paris954

Reported, but just to bring more attention to it, the knights are men should be accepted

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